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Don Maxwell - Nov 11,2011   Viewers  | Reply
    It was Mike's second seaplane flight and his first glassy-water landing. And it was really really really glassy.<br /><br />(7.3 MB)<br />      Attachments:  

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Troy iRMT Heavy Maint. Enriquez - Nov 11,2011   Viewers  | Reply
    nicely done.     
  
Kenneth Leonard - Nov 11,2011   Viewers  | Reply
    Perfect example Don.     
  
Don Maxwell - Nov 11,2011   Viewers  | Reply
    The airspeed was pretty good, but I was a little late in establishing the descent rate, and it was a bit quicker than I told Mike, more like 150 fpm. At 100 fpm there probably wouldn't have been much of a bump at all. The nose would have been slightly higher, too. I was glad to have gone back to Kerry's method of landing a Classic with full nose-up trim.<br /><br />This was the kind of landing when you really don't want to be heading out to sea, with no shoreline or trees or buoys in view. But it would have been easier if the trees had been shorter.     
  
John Robert Dunlop - Nov 11,2011   Viewers  | Reply
    Nicely done Don! (But always fly in trim..IMHO)     
  
Don Maxwell - Nov 11,2011   Viewers  | Reply
    John, I flew my SeaRey in trim for eight years--until I got to thinking one day in September about the Classic's trim system. We can't discuss the mechanical details here, but it seems reasonable to say that in a Classic SeaRey, the maximum amount of elevator force is affected by the trim position. Not so in the LSX. Realizing that<I> finally</I> enabled me to understand why Kerry insisted on full nose-up trim for landings during my transition training. I think it's especially important for glassy-water landings with a lot of weight up front.<!-- >'"><br><font color=red size=6>' or &gt; missing in user HTML. Please fix the HTML.</font> -->     
  
Frank A. Carr - Nov 11,2011   Viewers  | Reply
    Video excellant Don, but the audio is awesome! With a Garmin <br />NavCom, PSE Intercom, and <br />Lightspeed CC QXR's my audio is pitiful compared to yours, <br />good show!<br /><br />Oh, by the way, good alighting also.     
  
Jeff Arnold - Nov 13,2011   Viewers  | Reply
    Don, how did you get such clear audio?     
  
Don Maxwell - Nov 13,2011   Viewers  | Reply
    I used an inexpensive HD camera with external microphone input. Patched the intercom into the mic input--which turns off the cam's own mic, so I added a cheap external mic and a gain pot to balance the input levels. The aggregate input impedance is wrong for the camera, but rather than try to balance that, too, I just bumped up the audio gain in processing on the computer. Got lucky on the sound quality, despite the impedance mismatch. Total cost about $95.     
  
Don Maxwell - Nov 15,2011   Viewers  | Reply
    Hey, check out this old YouTube video made during the shooting of a theatrical movie, showing how not to land on glassy water: <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gQ5D0Qa0PBk&feature=related">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gQ5D0Qa0PBk&feature=related</a><br /><br />Be sure to read all of the comments, several of which explain what happened and suggest why. One suggests scattering a Sunday newspaper over the glassy surface. I'd never heard of that one, but it might work.<br /><br />There's more info about the landing in Wikipedia: <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mother_Lode_">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mother_Lode_</a>(film)<br /><br />You'll have to copy the entire link including '_(film)' and paste it into your browser. MyFamily doesn't include the parenthesis in the link, but you'll get a different Wikipedia entry without it.     
  
Don Maxwell - Nov 15,2011   Viewers  | Reply
    Here's what happens when you get too slow on approach: <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhyURC8faQY&feature=related">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhyURC8faQY&feature=related</a>     
  
Frank A. Carr - Nov 16,2011   Viewers  | Reply
    Even for me, this one (too slow..) looks bad.     
  
Frank A. Carr - Nov 16,2011   Viewers  | Reply
    Don, to me, the first 6 seconds of this seems to be a reasonable approach. Then all Hexx goes wrong.<!-- >'"><br><font color=red size=6>' or &gt; missing in user HTML. Please fix the HTML.</font> -->     
  
Don Maxwell - Nov 17,2011   Viewers  | Reply
    Yeah, it seems odd. As soon as he completes the 90 degree turn and reaches the Hexx point, he's obviously slow, but I don't know why. Maybe fooled by watching the ground or water into thinking he was going faster than he was. Maybe wanted to keep from coming down there. Maybe fooled by the wind. Or a bikini. Anyway, it appears to be a typical base-to-final stall-spin event, but low enough that he probably survived. Instructive.<br /><br />After writing that, I found the NTSB report: <a href="http://www.ntsb.gov/aviationquery/brief2.aspx?ev_id=20001208X06468&ntsbno=CHI96LA307&akey=1">http://www.ntsb.gov/aviationquery/brief2.aspx?ev_id=20001208<br>X06468&ntsbno=CHI96LA307&akey=1</a><br /><br />So I guessed completely wrong about the cause. But the effect was the same anyway. And the lesson is: 'Speed is life.' (In this case, the corollary, 'Altitude is life insurance,' may not apply.)     

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