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Posted By: Hal Brown
Date Posted: Jul 24, 2007
Description: The Donier Stingray 007 was unveiled at Oshkosh. This little two place composite amphib visually fits in the Donier family mold. Iren Donier has put the family name on it, but somehow came up with “Stingray” as the model name. Wonder where he got that from?

This is the first flying prototype. It is said to have only three hours. The water landings have been hard on props (they’ve had to replace two due to water damage).

The body is all composite. Strangely, the whole airplane, wings and tail, shakes easily. The material seems awfully thin and flimsy. I’m quite happy to let someone else test it.

What is it with bubble canopies? They stink. At least these are clamshell type. Forget about flying it in the Florida heat (though there are small sliding windows on the canopies). And if it turns upside down in the water, good luck pushing it open (the engineer said they will think about putting removable pins….good luck trying to pull them out when you’re upside down 4’ under water).

The reason they don’t have sliding canopies is revealed by the red dashed lines on the deck. The prop rotates right in front of the windscreen. Don’t try holding the canopies open during taxi lest someone’s hand stick into the whacking zone.

Note the strange looking cover over the nose wheel. That seals the wheel well when the gear is retracted. The gear is electrically driven.

There is one large flap that spans the wing from aileron to aileron. It is electrically driven. Note also the triangular wing tips and lack of supporting struts.

The sponsons on the fuselage contain two thirteen gallon fuel tanks. They also provide stability during water landings.

Donier expects the airplane to meet LSA standards. The empty weight of the prototype is around 900 pounds. The MGW is said to be 1430 pounds. It may be available as a quick build kit as well as s-LSA.

Here are the hypothetical performance values:

Vc 103 knots
Vmax 111 knots
Vne 124 knots
Vs0 37 knots
Vs1 (clean) 45 knots
Climb rate 700 fpm
Range 460 nm
TO-Distance 1260 feet
Wing Span 29.5’
Length 21.6’
Height 6.9’
Wing Area 129 sf
Max. Load 11 lbs/sf
Weight 942 pounds
MGW 1430 pounds

You can put in an order now for one at the Oshkosh special rate of $139,00 US (ex Germany, w/o tax).


Date Taken: Jul 24, 2007
Place Taken: Oshkosh, WI
Owner: Dan Nickens
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Category: 281, Oshkosh 2007
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Read what others had to say:

Don Maxwell - Jul 24,2007   Viewers  | Reply
    I like SeaReys better and better.     
  
Steve DiGiacomo - Jul 25,2007   Viewers  | Reply
    Ouch! This contraption is difficult to even look at. You could surround this silly thing with Hooters Girls in Searey bikinis and it wouldn't distract from all the 'ugly' they designed into it.<br /><br />Inbreeding is why cousins shouldn't date.<br />     
  
Chris Vernon-Jarvis - Jul 25,2007   Viewers  | Reply
    I love cantilever wings but this one bothers me. Where the hell is the structure? The pylon disappears into the canopy, for heavens sake, what holds it together, where is the structure to absorb the lateral forces from the fuselage swinging on the pylon?<br /><br />And with the prop that far forward how on earth did they get water damage?<br /><br />Interesting idea, not sure it'll work.     
  
P.C. Russell - Jul 25,2007   Viewers  | Reply
    At least the bow is well rounded, not pointed like a 'B' hull.     
  
Kenneth Leonard - Jul 25,2007   Viewers  | Reply
    The nose wheel cover reminds me of the older Russian fighters planes I've seen - ugly.<br />I'll bet the prop damage came from water spraying high off that sharp edged bow. It looks to also have a more narrow landing gear stance than the 'Rey. I like the sponsons but would want to see if they keep the wingtip out of the water in a crosswind as you come off the step. If not, and without the wire or struts supporting the wing from being pulled back, there is a lot of torque at the wing root as the tip drags the plane to a stop. All that said, I wouldn't call this ugly, just not practical. The T.O. distance is also a deal-breaker.     
  
Rick Oreair - Jul 25,2007   Viewers  | Reply
    That's what I was looking at Ken, the TO distance. Even with my big butt in the Searey, TO performance is great.     
  
Tom Binsfeld - Jul 25,2007   Viewers  | Reply
    Do the wings fold? When I spoke to Iren a year or so ago, he said he was planning for a folding wing for this plane. He really liked the SeaRey and was impressed with its performance.      Attachments:  

Erin Dornier as SeaRey pax.jpg
Erin Dornier as SeaRey pax

    
  
John Spratt - Jul 25,2007   Viewers  | Reply
    Searey Secret Agent (Nickens),<br /><br />Thanks for the photo reconnaissance!<br /><br />     
  
Eric Batterman - Jul 25,2007   Viewers  | Reply
    I think they put the wing and pylon on backwards     
  
Jim Thomas - Aug 02,2007   Viewers  | Reply
    Along with the motor, Eric! That nosewheel shield is just asking to get stuck in the mud... <br /><br />I might just have to take my sabre saw to my rear windows to get that cool profile, but then Swoosh Too's rear windows wouldn't match Swoosh's. Not that a SeaRey looks anything like a v-tail bonanza.     
  
Mark Alan MacKinnon - Jul 25,2007   Viewers  | Reply
    Sure wish they'd named it something else.     
  
Dan Nickens - Jul 25,2007   Viewers  | Reply
    Just a few more angles.      Attachments:  

srey front.jpg
srey front

srey front side.jpg
srey front side

srey back side.jpg
srey back side

       Attachments:  

srey back.jpg
srey back

    
  
Kenneth Leonard - Jul 26,2007   Viewers  | Reply
    Hey Dan, that Wisconsin Guard F-16 unit was in the desert with me back in '05. Their maintenance Commander was married to one of thier pilots but they weren't allowed to share a room.     
  
Don Maxwell - Jul 26,2007   Viewers  | Reply
    Dan, you might consider calling it something other than 'srey' because 'SREY' is the official FAA designator for the SeaRey. If anyone ever files a flight plan in one, that's the code to use. <a href="http://www.faa.gov/regulations_policies/orders_notices/air_traffic_orders/media/7340.1Y.pdf">http://www.faa.gov/regulations_policies/orders_notices/air_t<br>raffic_orders/media/7340.1Y.pdf</a>     
  
Dennis Vogan - Jul 26,2007   Viewers  | Reply
    Bet he doesn't book any orders through the week. With looks like that, you'd hope the reason was for great performance and their published numbers look bad. <br /><br />SeaRey owners aren't very opinionated, are they?     
  
Dave Lima - Jul 26,2007   Viewers  | Reply
    Yeah, take-off distance over 1200', that's like 2 Oprarh's in a searey with a 582.     
  
Steve DiGiacomo - Jul 26,2007   Viewers  | Reply
    Opinionated Searey Owners?! NO WE'RE NOT!!! Oh, I mean, um, ahem, 'scuse me.<br /><br />Actually, thank you Dennis, I thought I was the only opioniated one thinking, 'Run for your lives, it's coming right at us!' <br /><br />If this thing wasn't SO scary, there would probably be interested PEOPLE in any of these photos. Biggest airshow, expensive booth, fugly product with poor performance, and no people. It's just another swing and a miss.<br /><br />This picture shows yet another reason there's no people near this airplane.<br />      Attachments:  

Why No People.jpg
Why No People

    
  
Dennis Vogan - Jul 26,2007   Viewers  | Reply
    OK, is he working ona booger?     
  
Eric Batterman - Jul 29,2007   Viewers  | Reply
    According to aeronews they have 20 orders so far. The wing 'rotates 90 degrees fore and aft for storage or transport'. I hope more than an AN3 holds it in place for flight.     
  
Russ Garner - Jul 30,2007   Viewers  | Reply
    Maybe that's how you get in and out of it, you fold the wings back?     
  
John Robert Dunlop - Jul 31,2007   Viewers  | Reply
    Don't you mean the 'Dornier Mud Duck' Dan?     
  
Dan Nickens - Jul 31,2007   Viewers  | Reply
    It certainly fits, John. Ol'Col. Grumpy had an ugly amphibian he called the 'Mud Duck.' He took it to a R/C fly in and a French photographer had to shoot it. Col. Grumpy said the photographer kept calling it the 'canard bluie' (I suspect he meant 'canard de boue', but I couldn't tell Col. Grumpy that...of course, I've never been able to tell the Col. anything!).     
  
Philip Mendelson - Aug 02,2007   Viewers  | Reply
    I saw this airplane, briefly while I was at OSH. One of the sales people, was showing<br />off the BRS Chute! I am not an engineer, however, when I grabbed the wing and pushed back their was quite a bit of give and deflection. I had to wonder about the Need for the Chute!     
  
John Robert Dunlop - Aug 02,2007   Viewers  | Reply
    I thought of a mud duck with its tail in the air grubbing the bottom with its beak. I imagine that is what this bird is going to do when it tries to come ashore with that big 'digger' of a nose wheel cover!     


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