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Jeff Sauers - Jul 27,2012
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I was reading my Friday copy of Epilot(Aopa's email newsletter) and I clicked on a link to view a 360 panorama of the Oshkosh seaplane base. The first thing I saw was a Rey tying down at a pier. Anybody know who it is?<br /><br /><a href="http://www.aopa.org/oshkosh/2012/news/120725panoramic-view-of-eaa-seaplane-base.html?WT.mc_id=120727epilot&WT.mc_sect=osh">http://www.aopa.org/oshkosh/2012/news/120725panoramic-view-o<br>f-eaa-seaplane-base.html?WT.mc_id=120727epilot&WT.mc_sect=os<br>h</a><br /><br />
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Charles Cantrill - Jul 27,2012
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I looked at the link you shared and the <br />plane that is tied own by the pier is an <br />Aventura not a Searey. If it is the one that <br />I see and believe you are talking about is <br />the one with the guy in the yellow shirt <br />right.
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Chris Leng - Jul 27,2012
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That is an Adventura from Colorado. There is a SeaRey moored in the lagoon however and <br />at least 5 additional SeaRey's at Oshkosh this year
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Jeff Sauers - Jul 27,2012
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Wow! I stand corrected. I guess I should have had a second cup of coffee this morning before I posted.
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Frank A. Carr - Jul 27,2012
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So the whatever is docked in the 'U' Shaped dock but is it up on a black float? It looks like <br />the float may play the role of a ramp?<br /><br />(I also have had inadequate coffee this morning.)
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Don Maxwell - Jul 27,2012
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Frank, I think the black thing is the Aventura's right float. Most Aventuras have black floats.
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Chris Leng - Jul 28,2012
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I watched as a gust of wind raised the left wing and push the black float below the water <br />line while it was moored. The wing tip actually went into the water and for a moment I was <br />wondering if it would right itself. Has anyone seen that happen to a SeaRey?
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Don Maxwell - Jul 28,2012
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I've seen a SeaRey wingtip submerge only once, Chris. That was when someone tried to taxi across a strong wind on Russ Garner's lake in Florida, about ten years ago. (Submerging the wingtip was the least of that guy's problems that day.)<br /><br />Those floats displace only 1 or 2 cubic feet of water, and they're roughly halfway between the hull and wingtip. Water weighs about 63 lbs/ft^3. So a strong gust from the wrong direction can sink a float. But as soon as the gust passes the float will come up again. It's only a problem if there's a strong steady wind on a wingtip.<br /><br />SeaReys are probably less likely to get blown over in the water than most floatplanes are.
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Walt Bates - Jul 28,2012
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Such as the ICON, for example, which has no sponsons at all. Further, if the ICON does blow over with its canopy closed you'll be in a world of hurt.<br />By the way, did anyone watch their 'spin-resistant' wing video in their tent? The C-150 beside it goes into a steep spin with full back stick and full right rudder. The same control inputs have very little effect on the ICON. It basically keeps mushing along straight ahead. But after watching the video a few times I noticed that their elevator and rudder didn't displace nearly as much as the C-150's did. Their engineers have created a stall and spin resistant wing simply by restricting the control travel. This means that when you want to stall it on in real rough water you won't be able to. It means that when you need to do a crosswind landing with lots of crossed aileron and rudder you won't be able to do that, either. They have solved one set of problems and created others.
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Jerry Ratcliffe - Jul 29,2012
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I'm a newbie and not yet got my aircraft in the air, so pls excuse if this is a dopey question, but I was interested when you said in really rough water you would stall it on. Is that the best way to handle rough water is a SeaRey?<!-- >'"><br><font color=red size=6>' or > missing in user HTML. Please fix the HTML.</font> -->
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Daniel Paul Myers - Jul 29,2012
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Jerry, I will move this question to the tech site so we can discuss in detail.
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Don Maxwell - Jul 29,2012
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Jerry, you dope! But it's a great question and, as Daniel says, the SeaRey-specific technical stuff is better discussed on STS. But in general, as with any seaplane, the higher the waves, the more pounding you take. If there are large swells or heavy ship wakes it's often better to land along the swell instead of across it, even if you have to accept a crosswind. Now go over here: News&p=SZN510000
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Robert Charlwood Richardson - Jul 31,2012
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Et al - I flew in Tues and left Fri and it was a AirVenture. See the attached picture of it moored left of the lagoon entrance. It must of have come in Wed; since it was not in there Tues when I got there. The bay on Tues had 1-2ft waves that forced me to find a sheltered patch of water to land on a couple of inlets down from the seaplane base. Phil had bet that after my two failed attempts to land in the seaplane base bay, I would come around the point with a pontoon gone. Between the enroute low ceilings and head winds, and the NE winds and two massive thunderstorms on Wed and Thur Wx enroute and there was a real challenge for all of us who flew up. <br /><br />Based at the seaplane base was my plane, Lee's green & blue beauty, and Progressive's grey demo bird. On Oshkosh itself I saw of three other SeaReys - Tom's screaming Eagle from Michigan, the white/tan incomplete static trucked up from FL, and a yellow&white one with (I think) a Honda engine.<br /><br />Lee put in a herculean marketing effort at the Seaplane base static (see the picture) and Tom spent the week standing by his plane on Oshkosh and spoke to all comers. Not sure how many Progressive sold, but lots of interest and envy. <br /><br />Phil got off a couple demos early Tues until the rough water from the NE wind pretty much shutdown flight ops on the bay/lake until Friday when Dan put in a full day flying demos. Phil took up a 70+ husband and wife team & their son that secured their purchase of a kit. <br /><br />Icon was not at the seaplane base but had a big pavilion tent with the mock-up static and lots of videos & video games. There were two of the new Lisa French amphibs (<a href="http://www.lisa-airplanes.com/en/">http://www.lisa-airplanes.com/en/</a> there and unlike Icon it was not 'vapor ware.' It was sweet looking with a Rotax 912si. But it is not really a competitor given its $345K price tag and projected SLA cert date of mid-2014.
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Robert Charlwood Richardson - Jul 31,2012
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Getting there was half the fun. <br />First I gassed at Barber Airport (1D2) in OH (<a href="http://www.barberaircraft.com/">http://www.barberaircraft.com/</a>, the original home of the Taylorcraft factory where I found 93 octane, crisscrossing long sod strips and the rather colorful elderly owner who gave me a turn of all the antique taildraggers. One of them had an old Ford motor. <br /><br />Next, found an Inn on Lake James (<a href="http://www.in.gov/dnr/parklake/2973.htm">http://www.in.gov/dnr/parklake/2973.htm</a> in Northern Indiana (52IN) that not only had a beach to pull on, but the local marina owner is the IN Seaplane Associate state coordinator and he services up 93 octane Mogas. He, his pretty blond wife, and black lab motored over with 15 gals to fill me up. The only downside was the Inn lacked a bar. In the morning I had to e&e out under low clouds and around a thunderstorm. (see pictures)<br /><br />Then I had the pleasure of crossing Lake Michigan at 7500. Reminded me of my numerous North Atlantic crossings in teh C-5A/B Galaxy.
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Don Maxwell - Aug 01,2012
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Looks like you had a great trip, Rob--a real SeaRey Adventure! You've done really well, especially so because your SeaRey is so new to the sky. Intrepid!<br /><br />It's also good to know about your stops in Ohio and Indiana. I see there's a splash-in at Lake James in September.<br /><br />Are you back in Maryland now?
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Robert Charlwood Richardson - Aug 01,2012
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Yes. I need to wash down the plane from its travels. I'm joining my <br />fellow Essex's flyers at the Smoketown fly-in Saturday next.
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Lee Pfingston - Aug 02,2012
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Phil's flying and extarordinary People skills, helped me obtain an order from the truly amazing family Rob mentions. They live in northern Wisc. up in Walt Bates country. This will be their second build.<br /><br />Of particular note is Mary, the wife/mother of the team. Mary helped my wife wipe down aircraft, plant flags and generally get the display in order. Mary obtained her pilots license at the age of 60, and her instrument at the age of 70!<br /><br />I was 30 when I got my instrument, every flight was followed by 2 hours horizontal on the couch, my armpits soaking wet!<br /><br />I am going to try and obtain permission to feature this family in my 'What our members are building' section of our newsletter as I featured Tom Brooks in the last.
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Philip Mendelson - Aug 07,2012
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Thanks Lee, Mary and family were truly a pleasure to meet. Her attitude was truly inspirational! Hopefully she will share with many her great personality, wit and charm...
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