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Jerry Ratcliffe - May 15,2014   Viewers  | Reply
    Managed to sneak away from entertaining the mother-in-law on Sunday for an hour. Dropped into Havre de Grace (MD6) at low tide, which was a bit of a mistake. Not recommended at low water (more on that later perhaps). After that I treated myself to a skim around the shore, followed by a landing back home. Later checked logbook and that was landing number 1000 for me (not all in SeaReys of course). Glad I didn't screw it up!The five minute video is a little long because as a college prof, I give my students a break in long classes for five minutes, so I use videos with a timer superimposed on the video to keep them honest and so breaks don't last 15 minutes. Don't have the time to cut this down, but do enjoy a five minute jaunt around the top end of Chesapeake Bay.<!-- >'"><br><font color=red size=6>' or &gt; missing in user HTML. Please fix the HTML.</font> -->      Attachments:  

Eastern shore tour
Eastern shore tour


    
  
Dennis Vogan - May 15,2014   Viewers  | Reply
    Awe, Jerry. The weather up here has been so uncooperative that I haven't seen my Rey for almost a <br />month! Thanks so much for the 5 minute interlude. Felt like I was right in the seat next to you! <br />     
  
John w Shirah - May 15,2014   Viewers  | Reply
    Thanks for the video Jerry. Im with Dennis on this one. It was like i was right there next to u. Next time we <br />fly virtually with you, can we please stop for a bite to eat somewhere? Lol     
  
Jerry Ratcliffe - May 15,2014   Viewers  | Reply
    Fellas, I feel your pain. Nellie was iced into a hangar in NE Philly (KPNE) for about 4 months. She was pining for the Chesapeake. This winter was a long one: Glad it is over (for most of us).<!-- >'"><br><font color=red size=6>' or &gt; missing in user HTML. Please fix the HTML.</font> -->     
  
Paulo Constantino - May 15,2014   Viewers  | Reply
    Jerry,<br />Looks like a nice place to explore. Since there looks to be a growing Searey group in MD, how about you <br />guys down there set up a fly-in. Not too far for us in the New England area to take a trip to. I'm sure Don and <br />a few others could be persuaded to come up from the south too.     
  
Buck Bray - May 15,2014   Viewers  | Reply
    Great Searey fun on the Cheasapeake. Nice video, Jerry. Hoped to meet you at Helen's open house at CSP a few weeks ago. Been enjoying your videos. Will be joining you in a Searey on the Cheasapeake soon. I will be based out of St Mary's airport near Solomons Island where the Patuxent River flows into the Cheasapeake.<!-- >'"><br><font color=red size=6>' or &gt; missing in user HTML. Please fix the HTML.</font> -->     
  
Jerry Ratcliffe - May 16,2014   Viewers  | Reply
    Buck, you are not far away at all. In fact, we will be passing by tomorrow if the weather behaves, en route to Tangier Island for a late lunch. Are you building or buying?<!-- >'"><br><font color=red size=6>' or &gt; missing in user HTML. Please fix the HTML.</font> -->     
  
Buck Bray - May 16,2014   Viewers  | Reply
    Jerry- Tangier should be a fun Searey adventure tomorrow. I have purchased. Driving down to visit Don Maxwell tomorrow and then off to the factory for the DAR inspection Tuesday. Thanks to Don for feeding my passion and filling my brain with good advise.<!-- >'"><br><font color=red size=6>' or &gt; missing in user HTML. Please fix the HTML.</font> -->     
  
Jerry Ratcliffe - May 17,2014   Viewers  | Reply
    Alas not a SeaRey adventure. Have the mother-in-law in tow, so we are taking a C177 Cardinal from <br />W29.     
  
Buck Bray - May 17,2014   Viewers  | Reply
    While reviewing my logs this morning ran across the following notes from my first flight to Tangier Island in my first plane a 1956 straight tail C-172 that was our flying camper. With the back seat out there was room for a cooler and two full sized bicycles- room to sleep in the tail in bad weather or when didn't want to be obvious camping at large airfields on cross country adventures.My copilot wife wrote the following in our flight log: "26Jan83 Shannon - Tangier 1.50 landing fee (didn't charge the air taxi, though!) long Beach for camping. has a shipwreck on the island beach. CAMPING good place!"<!-- >'"><br><font color=red size=6>' or &gt; missing in user HTML. Please fix the HTML.</font> -->     
  
Robert Charlwood Richardson - May 17,2014   Viewers  | Reply
    Yes, there are number of us Chesapeake Bay SeaRey flyers. Besides Jerry, there is me at W48, Don Maxwell at the TAJ, Chuck Cavanaugh in NJ, and Helen at W29.<br /><br /> The Bay region and the Delmarva are a great place for the low flying SeaRey to play in and explore. There are a number of fine '$100 lunch stops' to be had. See teh URL link to a private Google map I maintain. <br /><br />Here are some pictures of the region. <br />      Attachments:  

RRCR4 Mid-Atlantic SeaPlane Map
RRCR4 Mid-Atlantic SeaPlane Map


1st Flt 2014 over to Chestertown.jpg
1st Flt 2014 over to Chestertown


Balt Harbor tour.jpg
Balt Harbor tour


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US Naval Academy.jpg
US Naval Academy


Ft McHenry.jpg
Ft McHenry


Balt Inner Harbor.jpg
Balt Inner Harbor


    
  
Don Maxwell - May 17,2014   Viewers  | Reply
    There's also Lindsay Trittipoe in Richmond, and Buck Bray (PAX River) picks up his brand new SeaRey next week. Has anyone heard from Mike Botsaris recently?     
  
Buck Bray - May 18,2014   Viewers  | Reply
    I noticed that your "Future base for Rob's MD SeaRay" will be very close to my "Future base for Buck's MD SeaRey" Will hangar it at St Mary's airport and putting together a small floating U dock for nice days in front of my house near Clark's Landing.<!-- >'"><br><font color=red size=6>' or &gt; missing in user HTML. Please fix the HTML.</font> -->     
  
Robert Charlwood Richardson - May 18,2014   Viewers  | Reply
    I plan to hangar at Essex and have a u-shaped dock at my place near St Clements. I last heard in Nov <br />timeframe that Mike Botsaris was looking at a MS or AR based SeaRey built by Angel. Nothing since. <br />He told me that was planning to base it off his dock at the entrance of Baltimore Outer Harbor. <br />If anyone is looking for a hangar in the region, we are building a couple new ones at Essex. Completion <br />sometime this Summer.     
  
Mike Botsaris - Jun 01,2014   Viewers  | Reply
    Hi Rob and Don - Paul Sanchez and I are busy training and flying N250MT out of Martin State (KMTN). <br />Just had Don Laughlin up from FL 2 weeks ago to finally do some water work - we should be signed off <br />and ready to go in another week or so. We have put about 40 hours on our SeaRey since purchasing it <br />in November. Rob we have been in and out of Essex several times and have been looking for you. Our <br />water work has been right there at the old Essex sea plane base and beach. Hope to be able to get <br />down to see Don soon and looking forward to our first splash in somewhere.     
  
Mike Botsaris - Jun 02,2014   Viewers  | Reply
    Rob - are the hangars at Essex going to have water and electric? How about making that <br />beach more SeaRey friendly - would that be allowed? I would love to see a picture of your u-<br />shaped dock (and Buck's plans). I live on Rock Creek and am trying to configure a SeaRey <br />dock at our pier.     
  
Jerry Ratcliffe - Jun 02,2014   Viewers  | Reply
    Hey Mike, if you are up and around this weekend ping me (jhr@temple.edu). I've got family in tow (next two weekends) so might not have any free time, but in case you are refuelling at W29 (they have MOGAS) or in the vicinity let me know - I might bump into you (not literally). And the Upper Chester River is a great place for SnD practices. If I see you about, 123.45. By the way, we are pretty happy with our floating dock.<!-- >'"><br><font color=red size=6>' or &gt; missing in user HTML. Please fix the HTML.</font> -->     
  
Mike Botsaris - Jun 02,2014   Viewers  | Reply
    Will do Jerry - we saw you at KMTN a couple of weeks ago but you were just taxiing out to 15 for departure and we were leaving the field for the day so we couldn't catch up with you. If you get back up here give us a shout. We have an end hangar and plenty of space to park right next to it. They also have a nice wash rack at KMTN and we have all of the cleaning essentials if you want to stop in and give your bird a bath. <br /><br />I would like to see your dock - never made it last year despite your generous offers.     
  
Jerry Ratcliffe - Jun 03,2014   Viewers  | Reply
    Damn - sorry we missed you, though the $19 landing/ramp fee was a bit of a shocker and a dampener on our enthusiasm to return... Can you avoid the fee somehow?And the chance to really wash Nellie would be great! Never really get the opportunity what with the wings hanging out off the floating dock at our place. She needs a good rub down (fnarr fnarr).<!-- >'"><br><font color=red size=6>' or &gt; missing in user HTML. Please fix the HTML.</font> -->     
  
Mike Botsaris - Jun 03,2014   Viewers  | Reply
    Didn't know about the ramp fee - next time when they tell you to taxi to <br />park just come on around next to <br />our hangar T175 and park right next to it out of the way. I have had <br />others do it and no one has said <br />anything and the FBO can't see you where we are.     
  
Robert Charlwood Richardson - Jun 03,2014   Viewers  | Reply
    Jerry, Come on over to Essex for a wash. We have a hose next to our fuel pad. Or you can use my hose. I have all the necessary cleaning stuff. But be advised that we use well water and its iron in it. The other option is to wash your plane at Cambridge (KCGE). Their wash rack is down next to the Rotax dealer.     
  
Buck Bray - Jun 03,2014   Viewers  | Reply
    Mike, I'm still in the planning stage on a docking arrangement and like you have been scouring for ideas. Helen Woods is working with an EzDock distributor to bring options to a ramp near her for experimentation with her Searey.<!-- >'"><br><font color=red size=6>' or &gt; missing in user HTML. Please fix the HTML.</font> -->     
  
Jerry Ratcliffe - Jun 03,2014   Viewers  | Reply
    Buck, see the first 10 seconds, and the last 30 seconds of this video, for the floating dock we have. Cost about $6k to include when we built our dock. Not saying it would be better or worse than an EZ Dock, but the guy is local and good to work with. An option for you.<!-- >'"><br><font color=red size=6>' or &gt; missing in user HTML. Please fix the HTML.</font> -->      Attachments:  

Nellie summer 2013
Nellie summer 2013


    
  
Don Maxwell - Jun 03,2014   Viewers  | Reply
    Jerry, how long does it take in real time to get the airplane up on the ramp?     
  
Jerry Ratcliffe - Jun 03,2014   Viewers  | Reply
    Don,About five minutes with an experienced crew of two and the winch already prepared. Sometimes I don't line up the wheels with the center of the ramps, and that requires a second go (ramps line up with chocks so it is all one movement). I allow 30 minutes for aircraft extraction, tying down, emptying the plane of headsets/gps/water/etc, and then rinsing off and putting away winch/hose etc. Most of the delays relate to waiting for the optimal tide. Has to be between about 2 and 3 feet on my dock. Less than 2 feet and wheels can end up in the mud (have done 1.5 feet, but I have to wade through the mud - yuk). More than 3 and the ramp angle begins to get so steep that the step clips the bottom of the floating dock. I've chiseled a groove in the dock, so this is less of an issue now and I have more flexibility.<!-- >'"><br><font color=red size=6>' or &gt; missing in user HTML. Please fix the HTML.</font> -->     
  
Buck Bray - Jun 04,2014   Viewers  | Reply
    Jerry, Nice floating dock arrangement. I look forward to seeing it sometime. Would like to be able to get the plane out of the water in my front yard. Initially, I intend to experiment with u-shaped docking for short term parking and let it sleep in a hanger at nearby St. Mary's airport.<!-- >'"><br><font color=red size=6>' or &gt; missing in user HTML. Please fix the HTML.</font> -->     
  
Mike Botsaris - Jun 03,2014   Viewers  | Reply
    Buck - I saw the EZDock plans too but when I questioned them (EZDock rep) about it at one of the boat <br />shows last year they were familiar with the SR but not hopeful that anything would be ready for <br />production in the near future - just not enough demand to make it worth their time. Let me know if you <br />find anything interesting. Jerry's dock works where he is but wouldn't work at the end of my deep water <br />pier with other piers on both sides. I am not sure I need to get the plane out of the water - just a place to <br />pull up to and get in and out and moor for a few hours or a day. I am thinking of a very low floating dock <br />configuration.     
  
Don Maxwell - Jun 03,2014   Viewers  | Reply
    Mike, for a floating SeaRey, I like low, U-shaped docks best. They snug the airplane up, are low enough that the gear legs can ride up over the deck, and they make it easy to get in and out on both sides. If the sides of the U are long enough, you can even work on the engine without getting wet. If the sides are even longer, you can run a line across underneath the back of the hull to keep it from sinking by the stern if it were to fill with water back there. <br /><br />I started out to build one like that here, but instead managed to clear a bunch of dead trees off the beach, which eliminated the need. So the floating dock morphed into the 'Large Marge Party Barge and Self-Propelled Seaplane Tender.' (As silly a name as I could think of.) It's essentially a floating dock that I didn't have to get permissions for by titling it as a boat.     
  
Jerry Ratcliffe - Jun 03,2014   Viewers  | Reply
    Deep water, eh? We are very envious. I have a tide app on my iPhone that I monitor as the weekends approach. It rules our flying times.<!-- >'"><br><font color=red size=6>' or &gt; missing in user HTML. Please fix the HTML.</font> -->     
  
Buck Bray - Jun 04,2014   Viewers  | Reply
    Mike, I also have deep water and a steep bank to the house. I am interested to see EZDock possibilities, but the photos I have seen with EZDocks looked less than practical. They appeared to have floatation sides too high out of the water to easily get the main wheels over in the up position. Additionally it looked as if the winch on the nose was necessary to hold the nose down since the aircraft c.g. is near the step and even with precise positioning of the step relative to a set of rollers the moment between the rollers and the c.g. would be small. Don't know if my observations/analysis from photos is accurate and that is why I am interested in actual experience and a demonstration of EZDock possibilities. I have purchased some connect-a-dock components to experiment with U-shaped dock possibilities. The ones I purchased are only 10" deep with a 8" floating freeboard and are used for crew teams, swimming platforms etc. Another advantage of the connect a dock components is they look very portable and will not be permanently attached to a dock so I could anchor it out enabling docking into the wind. Thought I would put some fenders in the U and just taxi in and the free movement of the dock would absorb any docking bumps.<!-- >'"><br><font color=red size=6>' or &gt; missing in user HTML. Please fix the HTML.</font> -->     
  
Mike Botsaris - Jun 05,2014   Viewers  | Reply
    Buck - what brand/type of floating dock are you thinking of? web site?. I think a low <br />freeboard is important and like Don says - the longer the better...     
  
Buck Bray - Jun 05,2014   Viewers  | Reply
    Mike, http://www.connectadock.com/dock/1000Series/connectADock1000Series.htmI bought my dock sections/components through a gentleman at Reedville Marina, VA who has used the 2000 series for years for boats and is a distributor. Said they have been very stable when subjected to large boat wakes from inconsiderate weekend boaters. Had them shipped right to my house. I can provide contact info or you could pick a distributor closer to you. They seem well made and easily configureable so I can experiment. The sections I got are 60" by 45" and weigh around 86 pounds so are easy to carry down the hill and assemble. Just haven't found the time yet. Was thinking of mooring a small U dock that in light winds I could tie to my pier. More expensive than wood construction, but more flexible and appears to have a longer life.<!-- >'"><br><font color=red size=6>' or &gt; missing in user HTML. Please fix the HTML.</font> -->     
  
Robert Charlwood Richardson - Jun 03,2014   Viewers  | Reply
    I did not know that you had brought your airplane up to MD. I normally fly on the weekend. I was over at Bay Bridge (W29) last Saturday with my Annapolis EAA chapter doing Eagle Flight for 80 Boy Scouts. (see the quick video I did of one of the 15 min flights. not the best landing). I normally do a local fly-in, or a 2hr trip out one of the compass headings, or play up &amp; down the Chester River above Chestertown on the eastern Shore. No salt water and light boat traffic. If the weather is nice this Saturday, I should be up @11AM. I'm thinking of videoing my Balt Harbor tour, then playing over in the Chester. If I see Jerry's plane as I fly over, I might drop in onto his creek for a visit. <br /><br />By the way, if you get tired of Martin's bureaucracy and no MX in the hangar rules, we are rebuilding 3 hangars at Essex and two of them will be available for rent sometime in late July/August. I owe teh rights to one of them.      Attachments:  

W29 Eagle Flt
W29 Eagle Flt


    
  
Don Maxwell - Jun 03,2014   Viewers  | Reply
    Nice job on the video, Rob--very informative. The kid seemed to be enjoying the ride.<br /><br />What's your thought about water ops on a Young Eagle flight? The EAA guys in Richmond had never considered it, the last time I asked them.     
  
Robert Charlwood Richardson - Jun 03,2014   Viewers  | Reply
    I never thought to ask. Besides, the winds were too strong (8 gust to 13) and there wasn't really a place around W29 to work in a quick splash and go. Kent Narrows is one of the nine places in MD that MD aviation law prohibits water ops.     
  
Mike Botsaris - Jun 05,2014   Viewers  | Reply
    Rob - I will stop in and take a look at the hangars at Essex.     
  
Jerry Ratcliffe - Jun 03,2014   Viewers  | Reply
    Rob, is the Naval Academy under the SFRA?     
  
Robert Charlwood Richardson - Jun 03,2014   Viewers  | Reply
    Yes, but Potomac Approach has no problem with us doing water landings in the Severn River. I fact I did one last Saturday. If you are looking to land and beach at the USNA, then Chuck Cavanaugh did it last Fall to attend the USAFA-USNA football game. I think he did a MyFamily posting of the event.     

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