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Greg Spires - Feb 17,2004 Viewers | Reply


	Is anyone using a BRS parachute on their SeaRey and what is your opinion about the need for one? Any pros or cons to its design, mounting, etc?

Eric Kiernan - Feb 17,2004 Viewers | Reply


	No need! Double safety design when manufactured. Never had any reports of structural failures. Slow speed will give you a great survivial rate bar none. Plus the $$$ for it!


	Greg<br />Well I'm not quite so 'Old dyed in the wool' as these guys. I think it depends on what kind of flying you are going to do. Easy for them to say 'NO', they fly in Florida. So would I if I did too.<br /><br />Frankly, if you are flying over Florida, any of the Southern States or any other Farming or plains country don't bother. Fly across Florida in an amphibian and you are never out of range of somewhere you can put it down in an emergency.<br /><br />Bit different if you fly around here, for instance. If I want ot get more that 5 mins from my home airfield I have to leave the valley. Then I have a choice, boulders in the creek bed or 60 deg slope with trees on. Even hitting at 40 knots you're probably going to buy the farm. Worse, if you survive they won't find you for a year, you fall through the canopy and it closes overhead. In the past couple of years we have lost Beavers (de Havilland) for days after a charter flight, a Cessna that took a year to find in the Fraser Valley, the most populated forest area we have, and a parachute dropping Cessna that disappeared on its way down after a drop at its home airport and took four months to find. <br /><br />If you do decide on a BRS though you'll need a Rotax style rad. and keep everything as far back on the wing as possible. Apparently obstacles on the wing forward of the high pressure area severely spoil the flight characteristics. (I speak from third hand info. Best check with the factory yourself.)

Greg Spires - Feb 18,2004 Viewers | Reply


	I guess in your emergency checklist you would have to make sure the prop had stopped before pulling the BRS handle.<br /><br />Chris, you have a lot of dangers in Alaska, but you got far more than your share of beauty. I hope to visit the state some day.<br />


	Greg,<br /><br />BC, we may be the frozen North but we're still a good bit South of Alaska.

Greg Spires - Feb 18,2004 Viewers | Reply


	OOPS! Sorry. Hope to visit BC, too. <br /><br />I guess if life is a refrigerator you are behind the little door on the top, I am behind the big door and the guys in Florida are around the hot air coming out of the back.<br /><br />You have noticed the hot air from the Florida gang haven't you?

don bosco - Feb 18,2004 Viewers | Reply


	I have a 914 Rotax and decided not to use a BRS. If something were to happen I would rather take a chance on a dead stick landing than a straight down thump on the ground with the BRS, with your head possibly hitting the canopy or frame.<br /><br />Look at it this way. A BRS Pete Rose going to first base. When he got close he would jump into the air and land on his rump...ouch.<br /><br />A SeaRey Pete Rose going to first base would slide in on his belly, a sight we have seen many times.<br /><br />As Pete would say, 'I'll bet my life on not using the BRS.'<br /><br />I guess by using that example, I will never get into the flying hall of fame.<br /><br />

Greg Spires - Feb 18,2004 Viewers | Reply


	Good analogy, but I was thinking a chute was more like dropping a ski rope and gliding in potentially was like hanging onto the rope and hitting every channel marker (ala 'Weekend At Bernies')


	Don't disagree with you there Frank, both on grounds of aerodynamics and weight, not to mention tearing a load of stuff apart to get it on.<br /><br />I'm not nearly so worried about the structure as I am about engine failure or my own competence in a stress situation.

Jack West - Feb 19,2004 Viewers | Reply


	Greg: I checked with BRS and they would not guarntee one with the weight of anything over 1200 lbs.

Greg Spires - Feb 19,2004 Viewers | Reply


	BRS shows a 1500 Softpack (1500 lbs and 145 mph) and a LSA 1350 (1350 lbs and 184 mph). They may not have tried hard enough when they answered you. <br /><br />Plus if you figure you will glide and land unless it is really catastrophic, you probably won't have 1200 lbs of plane remaining with you when you pull the handle.<br /><br />It is not that I would think that something would go wrong with a SeaRey. It would just give an extra bit of comfort to your passengers who see the word EXPERIMENTAL and have their blood pressure go up. It would also be comforting for those Young Eagles flights.


	Jack, I didn't speak to BRS, but thier site <a href="http://www.airplaneparachutes.com/BRS2.HTML">http://www.airplaneparachutes.com/BRS2.HTML</a> shows the 1500 canister rated to 1500 lbs and 145 mph deployment...


	Accepting weight, cost & macho factors, if someone decides a BRS is right for them, why must we mount it on the top of the wing? We have a large, hollow body behind the gas tank. I'd be interested to hear feedback on why that might not work. Maybe the center of gravity gets put back too far? I would think a blast shield between the rocket and gas tank would be needed. You would need to run cables to the center framework to secure it to the plane (unless you wanted to get really fancy and mold nylon straps under a thin layer of fibreglass (al la Cirrus SR20) so you would have a wings level let down...That's too fancy for me. Or the other possibility would be mounting it in the nose by the battery. Again, weight and ballance considerations, but the advantage would be having the tail structure to absorb energy during the final landing, vs. the nose. -Ken

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