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Tony Gugliuzza - Nov 29,2007
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I don't know.<br>It's just that when I was landing at this field today, it just looked to me like landing on a carrier might look.... Maybe it was how the end of the runway was raised that did it.<br><br><a href="http://www.carolinaflyin.com/stuff/redneck-carrier-landing-lc.wmv" target="blank"> http://www.carolinaflyin.com/stuff/redneck-carrier-landing-lc.wmv</a> <br><br><br><br>Tony G.<!-- >'"><br><font color=red size=6>' or > missing in user HTML. Please fix the HTML.</font> -->
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Dennis Scearce - Nov 29,2007
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Tony, was this at Northbrook OR Rebel?
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Jeff Arnold - Nov 29,2007
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Very nice clip Tony. Good to see you enjoying your Searey. Got your feathers wet yet?
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Tony Gugliuzza - Nov 29,2007
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Dennis,<br />That's Simmons Field in Polkville, NC. But I do have a video of a taking off from Northbrook! I put Cheryl to work with the camera yesterday.<br /><br />Jeff,<br />No, and its going to be awhile. I still need to get my retracts in proper shape, replace my boots and sponson struts, AND get properly trained. I may have flown land ops without proper transition training in the Searey, but for water, I'm gonna stay away until I have some good training in an actual Searey.
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Jeff Arnold - Nov 29,2007
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Tony, your cautious attitude is a good thing and you should not interpret what I say here as any suggestion to the contrary. <br /><br />I do find it interesting that common attitude is that the Searey is more challenging to operate on water than land. My thought is the contrary. My water landings are more consistant than land. Also on land, I am always on my toes for that squirly thing that tail draggers do sometimes. On water, it tracks straight every time. On land, if you touch down in a crab, then the wheels quickly change your direction and you get jerked around. On water, if you touch down in a crab, then you just swoosh and don't jerk.<br /><br />I will be interested to hear your perspective on my above comments after you do water opps - when you are ready and not before.
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Frank A. Carr - Nov 30,2007
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Jeff,<br />In my limited (i.e., very limited = 7 hours) of SeaRey time I've found as you that water is easier learned and more consistent than land. Dont' know why. But I'm convinced that one of my problems is optical based which results in a slight left-turn tendencey (or a slight left yaw) on approach and round out which is all but un-noticable on (wide) water but not with a narrow runway with a centerline. This jibes with your assessment.<br /><br />As to the hazzards of glassy water, porposing, or 'reverse power moment' (up high pusher vs. conventional tractor), I'm already convinced that transition training is cheaper than rebuilds.
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Dennis Scearce - Nov 29,2007
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Smart man. Water is more fun but the consequences of a screw are much more expensive.
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Jeff Arnold - Nov 29,2007
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Now there is an indisputable FACT. The consequences of a screw up on water are much more expensive, and dangerous I might add.<br /><br />Fortunately a C Hull Searey is forgiving and has a high 'screw up' threashold.
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Tony Gugliuzza - Nov 29,2007
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Jeff,<br /><br />I have to be very careful how I say this, because throughout my life, I have been immediately and decisively punished for any boasting - usually with an ironic twist.<br /><br />I adapt fairly well to piloting just about anything, be it cars, motorcycles, or whatever.<br />Some people are good at sports, some are good looking, some ar really smart. I can drive stuff.<br />While I take a large amount of confidence into the pilot seat with me, I also have not forgotten some of the very humbling lessons of my youth.<br />I am good with honest self assessment, and that is why I flew my Searey, which had the potential to be very different from anything else I flew, for the first time with no transition training and from a airstrip that many would call 'short' (although I did get a couple of minutes stick time in the air with Dennis and you).<br />But... I have enough time in a bunch of different birds to have some experiance to make that assessment.I dont have any with water. Do I think I'll have any problems adapting to water? Nope.<br />But I have read enough stories of other people who didn't think so either, so since I don't know for absolutely sure, I should get some type of training. Unfortunately a tight budget tempers the pace.<br />Once I do start splashing, I hope to report to you that it is as easy as you say, and I hope to be able to do a deadstick (power at idle) landing and make it look as easy as you did!<br /><br />Tony G.
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Bruno Grondin - Nov 30,2007
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Tony, wait until you splash on water, you will never want to land on ground anymore specialy with dead stick.<br />Jeff described it so well that I dont have to resay it.<br />But as we all know the concequances a bit more dramtic on water, so good preparation with knowledge pilot.
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Bruno Grondin - Nov 30,2007
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Tony, what do you mean by wires.... in you clip...<br />
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Tom Binsfeld - Nov 30,2007
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Tony, I was bullet proof at one time until I wasn't any longer. I was lucky to only bend a few parts and not lose the entire aircraft. The SeaRey can bite you if you push the envelope. Get someone qualified to show you where the edge of the envelope is before you find it yourself. Especially with glassy water operations. We have had way to many water landing incidents this year, many of them glassy water/B hull combinations. So be careful out there and good luck.
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Tony Gugliuzza - Nov 30,2007
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I was referring to the arresting cables that you try to catch with your tailhook when landing on an aircraft carrier.
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Bruno Grondin - Nov 30,2007
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Ok thought about it too... but if so, I really think you would have been in deep Sh....<br />Better to learn water landings fast, because after landing field on aircraft carrier their is water hein...hahahaha
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