Splash and Dash Searey Seaplane Delights                            Apr 27 5:52 Guest User - Request Membership Layout | Log In | Help | Videos | Site | Emails  Search:   Front Page Calendar Photos Add Photos News Add News File Cabinet Add File Cabinet History Add History * Searey Info * Add * Searey Info * Polls Add Polls Classifieds Add Classifieds Utilities Create a New Site  News View All News | Add News | Emoticons | Mark Unread Search News:      Category: 119,Flying Fun, 47,Splash-In Previous Item - AWOS & Dark Invader This will go to the previous thread in this topic.       Favorite option: If you want this item to be marked as a favorite, click on the black heart.   Gator Frequency in Virginia         Next Item - Circumnavigate Florida This will go to the next thread in this topic.    Don Maxwell - Aug 13,2013   Viewers  | Reply     It turns out that the Gator frequency, 123.375, which is also assigned to PA's UNICOM, is in Virginia assigned to Langley AFB for 'Other - (NASA OPS): 123.375 MHz NASA OPS.' ( https://nfdc.faa.gov/nfdcApps/airportLookup/airportDisplay.jsp?airportId=LFI )<br /><br />Here's 7:48 of about 2 hours that I overheard on that frequency recently, using a handheld radio in the house, about 45 nm from KLFI Langley. (There are a few long pauses, one almost 2 minutes, while someone maneuvers.):<br /><br />Tsk. I guess it's back to 123.45 for SeaRey commo around here. Or maybe multicom.<br />       Attachments:   NASA-Langley-1-3+4-2013-08-10         Attachments:   NASA-Langley-1-3+4-2013-08-10.mp3          Don Maxwell - Aug 14,2013   Viewers  | Reply     I'd never heard anyone on 123.375 here--until recently--and had been using it for SeaRey-to-SeaRey commo and between our house and arriving or departing seaplanes. But now that I've heard official Langley conversations here inside the house, I'll probably stop using it altogether hereabouts. <br /><br />123.45 is supposed to be reserved for commo over the open ocean, but it's by far the most commonly used frequency for informal air-to-air and air-to-ground in Virginia, and sometimes it's rather congested.<br /><br />Unfortunately, neither the FAA, nor the FCC is particularly helpful on this. The current AIM gives only 122.75 for 'Air-to-air communication (private fixed wing aircraft).' (And 123.025 for private helicopters.) (TBL 4-1-3, page 4-1-7) So that's probably the safest one to use. But it's often congested here, too.          Jeff Arnold - Aug 14,2013   Viewers  | Reply     Don, I have been using 123.45 over Claytor Lake for the last 10+ years. Sometimes there is some chatter, but haven't had any real problems and nobody has ever complained. If you ever buzz by Claytor, I will be listening for you on 1213.45. (Easy to remember too.....)          Don Maxwell - Aug 15,2013   Viewers  | Reply     The Langley NASA guys are up again today, apparently testing intercept procedures. Intercepting... what? UAVs, maybe. The speeds they mention are between 100 and 200 knots. Anyway, they have plenty of transmitting power for me to read them clearly indoors with a handheld.<br /><br />Langley is not far from the Wallops Island space center, Pax River NAS, and Restricted areas over the Potomac River southeast of DC where they've apparently been testing UAVs for several years. <br /><br /><a href="http://www.nasa.gov/centers/wallops/home/index.html#.Ug0PjVPFYbI">http://www.nasa.gov/centers/wallops/home/index.html#.Ug0PjVP<br>FYbI</a>          Frank A. Carr - Aug 15,2013   Viewers  | Reply     Don, Since Pax River is the official Navy Test facility (similar to Edwards AFB for the USAF), they do a lot of kinds of training and testing there, and used to do some bombing in the Bay as well. Do they have to stay below 250 under 10,000 like others? And in your recording I couldn't figure out why the heading was changing as fast as it was while apparently still trying to intercept an inbound course??<!-- >'"><br><font color=red size=6>' or &gt; missing in user HTML. Please fix the HTML.</font> -->          Don Maxwell - Aug 15,2013   Viewers  | Reply     Frank, I think it may have been two aircraft, at least one of them trying to intercept a drone. They were doing the same thing today, too, but at least one different voice for the interceptor pilot. Or controller. Or... whatever.          Robert Charlwood Richardson - Aug 15,2013   Viewers  | Reply     Don there was a Wash DC news piece I heard yesterday that said the <br />Navy and NASA were conducting space capsule recovery procedures <br />as part of NASA's Orion program. That maybe what you are hearing.       Attachments:   Orion news piece          Frank A. Carr - Aug 16,2013   Viewers  | Reply     Seems rather primitive compared to having landing gear come out of a space ship and landing on a runway.<!-- >'"><br><font color=red size=6>' or &gt; missing in user HTML. Please fix the HTML.</font> -->          Don Maxwell - Aug 16,2013   Viewers  | Reply     It might well be related, Rob, but the guys I'm hearing are definitely <br />airborne. And Langley and Norfolk are <br />well below the horizon here, about 50 nm away, so it doesn't seem <br />likely that I could read their ground stations. (Well, I can't.)          Kenneth Leonard - Aug 18,2013   Viewers  | Reply     I presume the UAV intercept is just practice for intercepting an intruder into SFRA. Seems like a cheaper/safter alternative than using a manned aircraft that could potentially get hit. Plus, it justifies buying more drones, which is clearly a desire of each service. If you haven't figured it out yet, each service wants to control the drone fleet because there is big bucks and power to be had.

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