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Don Maxwell - Apr 30,2017   Viewers  | Reply
    Here's a brief video showing a Legend Cub, a Savage Cub, a Searey, and a windshear: https://youtu.be/2vMC7Qza9ZQ     
  
Sauers, Jeff - Apr 30,2017   Viewers  | Reply
    That interesting Don. On the very last runway landing, it looks like you did a three pointer. The stick disappeared aft just before
touchdown. I'm thinking about re-evaluating my x-wind preference. Thus far, I do mostly wheel landings since the Searey has a
heavier tail than many conventional gear planes. But it is also due to so many years of tricycle gear flying , and I want to force
myself to be totally comfortable with a wheel landing. But last week I had fairly turbulent or slightly gusty x-winds and was working
like crazy on the wheel landing. The problem is, if you lower the tail wheel before you're slow enough, you're airborne again, and
when the tail is being thrown left and right, I was busier than a one legged man in a butt kicking contest! So I ate up much more
runway than usual, to slow down before I lowered my tailwheel. I'm thinking with a three-pointer, when you're slow enough to plant
all three wheels (without bouncing), you're slow enough to not get airborne again! And I am REALLY comfortable with three pointers
since it is more like a tricycle gear landing!

I hope I'm not hijacking the thread. Just trying to gain some experience from the guys that have been doing it a while!
    
  
Don Maxwell - May 01,2017   Viewers  | Reply
    That was a three-pointer, Jeff. The wind right down on the runway was only a few knots, despite what the AWOS said up at 20 feet, or so, although it was unsteady because of the thermal activity.

I'm no expert on landings! So there's no sense in looking for truth or wisdom here. This is merely what I usually find myself doing:

Most of my Searey landings turn out to be three-pointers, although that's mainly because I try to avoid banging the wheels down on the ground too hard and too often--so if there's plenty of runway (the video runway is 5500x100) I usually just get down close to the ground and fly along in ground effect until the air smooths out, then ease off the throttle and let it land. Ground effect in my Searey is pretty close to the three-point attitude.

I also usually use the kickout method for crosswind landings. That lets me get down where the wind is slowest before straightening out with the ailerons and rudder. That usually means less correction.

But when the crosswind is for real--more than a few knots, especially when it's gusty--or the runway is short or narrow, I usually use the slip method and try for a wheeler. Here's an example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zLB2a3Swh7I&t=2s

That video shows two attempts to land. I gave up on the first one and went around. For the second attempt I took my time, set up the slip early, and did a wheeler--the way you're supposed to do it.

If you want to skip the bad example, skip to 3:40 in the video. And please remember that this is merely an example, not advice.
    
  
Sauers, Jeff - May 01,2017   Viewers  | Reply
    Yep. That second one was a textbook wheel landing. Very nice. I would be happy if all of my wheel landings looked like that!     
  
Don Maxwell - May 02,2017   Viewers  | Reply
    Heh. Me, too.

Just in case you're wondering, a Searey (my Classic) can handle a 15 knot direct crosswind easily when the wind is steady. The best I've done without landing diagonally was at a field in Michigan when the AWOS was reporting 22 knots crosswind. That field was in open country, with almost nothing to disturb the wind within a couple of miles. As I recall, the upwind rudder pedal was almost at the stop, with plenty of aileron oomph remaining. So the rudder defines the crosswind limit. (The rudder gap was taped.) Another time in NC two other Seareys and I landed just as a front arrived, and that time my rudder WAS all the way down. I don't know the wind speed that time, but whatever the AWOS said was wrong.
    

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