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Posted By:
Hal Brown
Date Posted:
Oct 15, 2007
Description:
This Kingfisher with two soles(350lbs) aboard and 10 gallons of fuel, with the current(3knots) and into a 2 knot headwind took about 1800 feet for the takeoff run! You gotta love the SeaRey!
Date Taken:
Oct 15, 2007
Place Taken:
Sacramento River, CA
Owner:
Tom Binsfeld
File Name:
Kingfisher_on_the_river.jpg - Photo HTML
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Category:
1157,Binsfield''s
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Tom Binsfeld - Oct 15,2007
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Mike Bell - Oct 15,2007
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Tom, is there room for maybe 5 more SeaReys in this picture about a year from now?
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Tom Binsfeld - Oct 15,2007
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I'm hoping for 6 or 7, Mike!
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Dave Lima - Oct 15,2007
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Yeah, like maybe a fly-in next March. I'd like to come and see California, as long as there's a beach and it's hot!
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Bruno Grondin - Oct 16,2007
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I went to California last year, this where I bought my Searey.<br />It was at Perris airport near LA and the Goverment prohibit all splashes on the lakes.<br />This is why I have to change all the rubber boots on it (it was a control sinking because the sumpump was just strong enough to pour out the same amount of water comming in), the old owner never tried it on water. Such a nice place, I liked it very much we flew across mountains and prairies.<br />But came back to the airport and land on solid ground....
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Tom Binsfeld - Oct 16,2007
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Dave , you're all welcome in Calfornia( Chico) anytime. I don't know about beaches in March( San Diego, maybe). The photo is on the river on Labor Day. The Pacific coast is about one hour away (flying of course) and Lake Tahoe is in the other direction in John Spratt's backyard.
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Sacramento River Tubing
Shelter Cove
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Shelter Cove approach
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Mark Alan MacKinnon - Oct 17,2007
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Was he going with the river current or against? If with current, seems to me there would be more effort to get on step. (therein lies much debate, methinks...).<br /><br />Anyway, I've seen Earl Anderson's original Kingfisher (100hp) get off a lake with 2 souls in about same distance as an average floatplane. I know; I was that passenger twice (as a skinny 115 lb teenager, I should add though. Earl was average size/weight).<br /><br />The Kingfisher, along with it's older cousin the Volmer Sportsman (both 1960's design, with similar wood/plywood/fiberglass hulls), could use either Champ, Cub or homebuilt wings. The Volmer owner I met at the Georgian Bay Gaggle two years ago told me that most Volmer builders believe the Champ wings out-perform the Cub wings, with better lift, so they favor using Champs. The performance of the Kingfisher in these pics could depend entirely on which wings were used. (I cannot remember which wings were on Earl's original).<br /><br />Also, Earl designed the Kingfisher with a deep V-hull, to take wave pounding, but undoubtably this compromised takeoff performance. His original also incorporated short hoses between the area behind the step, and the hull sides, to reduce the suction behind the step. Who knows if this Kingfisher here had these hoses.<br /><br />Earl also stressed that the fiberglass outer layer be kept as thin as possible. One of the most common errors made by Kingfisher builders (including one built here in Maine in the '80's) was to make the fiberglass layer too thick, which added too much weight.
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Original Kingfisher
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Tom Binsfeld - Oct 17,2007
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You absolutely right, Mark. This Kingfisher has the Cub wings, no vent tubes, and is heavy. The owner is planning to install air tubes and a three bladed Warpdrive for an attempt at a little more thrust at takeoff. Or he could get a SeaRey( I did not suggest this, I figure he will come to his own conclusion).
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Mark Alan MacKinnon - Oct 17,2007
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Tom, I don't know how well you know this guy, but feel free to email him my pic of Earl's....I'm sorry it's just a small snapshot, and the only pic I have of it. I was just a kid with a cheap camera back then. Wish I had taken more pics. 
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Frank A. Carr - Oct 18,2007
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Mark, Your photo is in color so the camera couldn't be too cheap or 'back then' wasn't too far back. My first <br />photos are all black and white--color hadn't been invented.
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