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Posted By:
Al Fraser
Date Posted:
Jan 1, 2020
Description:
Chuck Lewis and I found perfect ice condition on Lake Wentworth in Wolfeboro, NH last Sunday. Here are a few pictures.
Date Taken:
December 29, 2019
Place Taken:
43.5938, -71.1302111111
Owner:
Al Fraser
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Category:
SeaReys in Winter
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Al Fraser - Jan 01,2020
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2nd picture, Happy New Year!
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Al Fraser - Jan 01,2020
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Al Fraser - Jan 01,2020
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Al Fraser - Jan 01,2020
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Nickens, Dan - Jan 01,2020
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Do you log that as a glassy water landing? Looks like fun!
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Al Fraser - Jan 01,2020
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You are correct Dan, it is just as hard to judges your height above glassy ice as it is above glassy water. It was fun,but still cold!
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Wayne Nagy - Jan 01,2020
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FANTASTIC AL!
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Dennis Scearce - Jan 02,2020
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Thanks for posting. How cold was it when you guys were out there? How do you ensure the ice will hold the first time?
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Al Fraser - Jan 02,2020
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The temperature that day was in the mid 30s. We have had a good week or so of below freezing weather and had seen groups of people out on the ice, skating and fishing. I also let Chuck land first:-}
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Bruce MacInnes - Jan 02,2020
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Years ago we learned a big lesson about ski plane flying - I had physically checked the ice thickness of a lake (6 inches) before 2
weeks of sub-zero weather. It had also snowed during that time & while we thought the ice would be thicker, the snow actually
insulated the ice & the lake water melted it thinner underneath the snow. We landed a PA-20 assuming all would be well & found
ourselves water-skiing with water & slush splashing outside. There were three of us in the plane & only after pushing the carb heat off
were we able to break free & take off. Snow mobile guys probably learned this lesson the hard way & we got lucky...
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Don Maxwell - Jan 02,2020
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That is SLICK! Looks like perfect skating ice, too.
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Al Fraser - Jan 02,2020
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Ha ha Don, I see what did! You are correct; we were wishing we had our skates.
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Chris Vernon-Jarvis - Jan 02,2020
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Freind had an otter on skis, (Floats in the Summer.) We landed on the lake outside our house and he said 6" plus 1" for every 1,000 lbs. Approx 14" for his Otter loaded.
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Mark MacKinnon - Jan 03,2020
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Looks perfect for the ice boats (sailboats on ice blades). Those guys travel hundreds of miles with those things once word gets out about a lake with ice conditions like this.
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Daniel Myers - Jan 21,2020
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Didn't realize chuck was already back up in the air. Looks great!
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Al Fraser - Feb 18,2020
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Thanks Daniel! I agree, Chuck did a Great job building his new plane. He completed it in 13 months while still working a full time job. He has just about got his initial 40 hours flown off.
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Daniel Myers - Jan 21,2020
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Didn't realize chuck was already back up in the air. Looks great!
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Carr, Frank - Feb 14,2020
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Al, Looks really neat. Just out of curiosity I wonder if landing a taildragger on ice presents an added risk for a ground loop?
Tho I've not heard of any SR's doing that on grass or pavement.
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Mark MacKinnon - Feb 15,2020
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Frank, I have a friend with a Sonex who has the same concern about groundlooping on ice, so he hasn't tried it. I would think that the chances would be less. If the tailwheel slides around on the ice, so will the mains. What causes a groundloop on a paved runway are the mains gripping while the tw comes around, forcing the wing to come down and smack the ground. I don't think that's going to happen on the ice. I landed mine on the ice a couple weeks ago and though the ice was very slick underfoot, there was no tendency for my plane to skid around.
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Carr, Frank - Feb 15,2020
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Thanks Mark. Having had some experience with ground loops (over 50 years ago) I was just wondering, but also we're not expecting
much ice in Florida to experiment myself.
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Al Fraser - Feb 18,2020
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Frank, I think Mark's statement is correct, with the entire lake being one big piece of ice we tended to land into the wind. I have take off from the plowed ice runway in Alton Bay with a strong cross wind and the entire plane slide sideways which gets very nerve racking since the plowed runway is only about 50 feet wide with snow banks on both sides. There is at least one airplane accident per season (which is one to two mouths long) that Alton Bay ice runway is open. Pilots forget that they have no brakes and come in hot, land long and slide right into the 3 to 4 foot high snow bank at the end of the runway.
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