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Russ Garner - Aug 05,2014
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C-17 landing at Osh 2014
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Don Maxwell - Aug 05,2014
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B I G.
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Frank A. Carr - Aug 05,2014
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'AIRMET CHARLIE STATE OF WI CAUTION WAKE TURBULENCE'
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Dan Nickens - Aug 05,2014
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Now that right there is funny, Frank.
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Chris Vernon-Jarvis - Aug 06,2014
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Can you just imagine how long that kit takes to build?
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Frank A. Carr - Aug 06,2014
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...and do you need a logbook endorsement to fly it?
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Kenneth Leonard - Aug 10,2014
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We built a c17 at charleston while I was there. Used it in parades. Even flew occasionally when we <br />loaded it in full scale version. Based on a gator frame. Held about 8 passengers.
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Robert Charlwood Richardson - Aug 10,2014
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BIG yes, but not the biggest to have visited Oshkosh. Its big brother, C-5A/B Galaxy, Attended Osh 2012. The C-5 is almost twice as big as the C-17. Note the pictures. <br /><br />Logbook endorsement no, but type rating yes.
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Kenneth Leonard - Aug 10,2014
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Yes but the C-17 carries most of the weight of a galaxy, is an order of <br />magnitude more reliable and with <br />her blown flaps, lands almost as short as a C-130. A truly impressive <br />plane.
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Frank A. Carr - Aug 10,2014
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Impressive maybe, but certainly not due to the paint job!
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Robert Charlwood Richardson - Aug 10,2014
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Ken, impressive yes, but actually the C-5 at 36 pallets carries twice the load of a C-17 at 17 pallets. Or if <br />measured by M1A tanks 2 vs 1. Or 10 Apache attack helicopters. All from the East Coast to Germany <br />w/out mid air refueling. <br /><br />As to landing in dirt the C-5 is fully capable of assault landings a la C-130 but why risk a $300M aircraft <br />in a combat zone when we have so many C-130s. As to reliability, when it's parts were funded and the <br />acft flown regularly, it had well over a 95% reliability during the 1st Gulf War airlift and I have heard the <br />upgrade C-5M have even better reliability. There is a reason they are still in the inventory. They have a <br />greater cargo throughput at a greater unrefueled distance. <br /><br />As a former C-5 driver, I maybe basis, but I also know the mid 1990s spin that the USAF put out that C-<br />17 was as good as the C-5; so as to get Congress to fund the C-17 as a replacement for the aged C-<br />141. My fellow USAF Reserve Sq/cc was also the Lockheed-Martin C-5 Chief Test Pilot.
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Chuck Cavanaugh - Aug 10,2014
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'May be' biased? LOL.
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Jerry Ratcliffe - Aug 11,2014
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'Or 10 Apache attack helicopters'<br />aka the entire British air force.
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Dan Nickens - Aug 11,2014
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That must have been quite a transition, Robert, from Super Size to SeaRey Size. What was the biggest <br />adjustment you had to make to get comfortable with little planes?
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Kenneth Leonard - Aug 11,2014
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Figured I might be poking the bear...<br />The -5 is certainly a great plane. <br />Even had the chance to watch a C-5 do aerobatics in Iraq...80 degrees <br />wing down turning for assault <br />landing to avoid shoulder fired missile threat. Replaced many tires on <br />that one...
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Robert Charlwood Richardson - Aug 12,2014
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A standard C-5 RTU training item at Altus AFB. Actually it was a straight forward maneuver. Come in <br />over the airfield at 5-10000ft & 250knots IAS. Crossing the landing threshold throttles to idle. Maintain <br />altitude & let the airspeed bleed off. Passing 215 Knots Flaps 40%, passing 200 gear down & start 180 <br />30' bank turn. Passing 180 Full flaps & lower nose to maintain approach speed plus 20. Manage spiral <br />turns until lined up @1/4 mile final at @300ft AGL approach plus 10 (the donut). Land with full reverse <br />thrusters, slats, and max braking. <br /><br />Who says the big boys don't know how to fly VFR low. I just had to keep in mind not to bank too low and <br />drag a wing. The other risk is getting below approach plus 20 in the spiral.
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Jerry Ratcliffe - Aug 13,2014
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And people say flying big tin doesn't prepare you for flying the SeaRey... ;-)
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Russ Garner - Aug 13,2014
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Jerry, how about a plane big enough that you could almost fly the Searey in its belly.
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Dave Edward - Aug 13,2014
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Lockheed C-5 Galaxy versus Antonov AN-225
75.28 m 246 ft 11 in length 84.00 m 275 ft 7 in
67.97 m 222 ft 11 in wingspan 88.40 m 290 ft 0 in
558.00 m2 6,006 ft2 wingarea 905.00 m2 9,741 ft2
19.80 m 64 ft 11 in height 18.10 m 59 ft 4 in
4 engines 6
191 kN 43,000 lbf thrust per engine 229 kN 51,590 lbf
764 kN 172,000 lbf total thrust 1,374 kN 309,540 lbf
378,000 kgs 833,000 lbs MTOW 600,000 kgs 1,323,000 lbs
9,560 km 5,162 nm range 4,500 km 2,430 nm
M0.71 cruise speed M0.78
130 t 287,000 lbs payload 250 t 551,000 lbs
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