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Kevin D'Angelo - Apr 08,2007   Viewers  | Reply
    This might seem to be a little unusual but has anybody strapped bicyles to the struts to take them with you to a splash in. The reason I ask is I travel to triathlons during the summer and was thiniking that it would be great to take the searey, as all the triathlons are held on beautiful lakes. I was wondering if it would cause too much aerodynamic drag and would the FAA look unfavorably at it? As my son usually competes in these also it would be one on each strut with cargo straps to hold them on.     
  
Don Maxwell - Apr 08,2007   Viewers  | Reply
    Kevin, you did order the optional bike carrier, didn't you? <br /><br />I've wondered about tying stuff onto the struts, too, but haven't actually done it yet. The FAA question is interesting, too, and someone who's up on the regs will probably know the legal answer--but I'd think that if you're the manufacturer of the airplane, then you may be able to determine what external stores it's capable of carrying safely. Bombs, rockets, plywood, bicycles--lots of possibilities!     
  
Kenneth Leonard - Apr 08,2007   Viewers  | Reply
    I'd be concerned about a harmonic vibration.     
  
Dave Lima - Apr 08,2007   Viewers  | Reply
    Now this definately calls for a tether, I knew they would be usefull sometime.     
  
P.C. Russell - Apr 09,2007   Viewers  | Reply
    Kevin;<br /> I know a friend who tied huge tractor tires on the outside of a B-17 he was using to haul freight to the Bahamas. The FAA heard about it but did nothing because they couldn't prove it happened. P.C.     
  
Chet Tims - Apr 12,2007   Viewers  | Reply
    PC -- how did this B-17 handle with the tractor tires attached ? Was it a humongous amount of drag ? What did it do to the rotation speed ? OF COURSE, I know we'll have to wait a little while until you can ask your friend.... ( wink - wink.... ) ??     
  
Bård Sørbye - Apr 09,2007   Viewers  | Reply
    I'm interested in the results of any experiment done with this. A pair of bicycles would be nice wherever I might want to land!     
  
Kevin D'Angelo - Apr 09,2007   Viewers  | Reply
    I guess I will have to be the first one to try it. My first event is in June so I will let you know how it goes. As far as vibration - the Searey doesn't go much faster than my car and it doesn't seem to vibrate on the car carrier. The bikes themselves are pretty aerodynamic and light (20 pounds each)     
  
Bill Furr - Apr 09,2007   Viewers  | Reply
    Let us know the results. I was thinking of a folding bike, but it does not seem one would fit in the luggage area. I was thinking of trying the larger forward hatch for this reason.     
  
Bruno Grondin - Apr 10,2007   Viewers  | Reply
   
HU guys, I'working on this project since 6 months now, I'm naking oups making 2 composites molding on the struts to be able to insert 2 folding bikes total weight will be around 22 pounds each (with bikes of course. This way less drag no vibrations, weather proof.

Bruno
    
  
Kevin D'Angelo - Apr 10,2007   Viewers  | Reply
    sounds interesting - have some pictures?     
  
Chris Vernon-Jarvis - Apr 11,2007   Viewers  | Reply
    Beavers fly with canoes lashed to the float struts. There is even an instruction in the manual as to how to tie them on! I guess bikes are not quite so aerodynamic.     
  
Andy Shane - Apr 11,2007   Viewers  | Reply
    New Page 1

I enjoyed this thread, it triggered a distant memory: years ago, someone wrote an article about external cargo and had remarked that the Alaskan FAA folks have some manner of guidance about tying things to planes. I recall a tale of a 'fridge being transported under one seaplane. Sure enough, the FAA did produce an Advisory Circular, AC 91-69A,Seaplane Safety for 14 CFR Part 91 Operators with a paragraph dealing with external cargo. (7) Pilots should be careful when carrying external cargo and shouldfollow the manufacturer’s recommendations regarding such carriage. If the manufacturer does not permit it, then the pilot should not either. Because of their bulk or size, certain items may not be able to be loaded in the cabin of small aircraft. Floats, because of their size, make a useful platform for carrying items that are too large to fit into the cabin. However, certain precautions must be taken to ensure safety of flight. Items must be placed to ensure compliance with weight and balance limitations. The weight should be equally distributed on both floats, items should be aft of the propeller arc, and the weight of any external cargo should be included during the weight and balance calculations. Finally, external loads must be properly secured to the aircraft in a manner that does not block the emergency exits.

Well, we have one of themost beautiful mornings on record going, here in Paradise. Time to ambleout back and hit the UP button on the door. Besides, I need to take arefrigerator to a friend...

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Bruno Grondin - Apr 11,2007   Viewers  | Reply
    Thanks Andy for the details, We fit into all except for the aprobation from PA (YET)<br />And it wont block the emergency exit thats for shure.<br />Kevin, I don't have pictures yet, but it will come....<br /><br />Bruno     
  
Dan Nickens - Apr 11,2007   Viewers  | Reply
    Anyone who is a member of the Seaplane Pilots Association can access a 1985 article from the Water Flying Annual concerning external loads.     

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