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Jeff Arnold - Mar 14,2008
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I am looking to purchase a handheld GPS. I am leaning toward the Lowrance 2000C but I am open to other options.<br /><br />Curious if anyone has the Lowrance and would share your impressions?<br /><br />Also, does anyone have suggestions of other units you especially like?<br /><br />I am looking in the sub $1000 market.<br /><br />Thanks!
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Don Maxwell - Mar 14,2008
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Jeff, I have a 2000c and like it well. It doesn't do weather, but it has terrain and nautical data--channels, buoys, etc.--and the screen is big and bright. It doesn't have a simulated gyro horizon, like the Garmins, but it does have a display that can help you stay rightside up. It can run on dry cells, but not for long, so you ought to plan on plugging it into the aircraft's power. It has a land mode, with streets, restaurants, and similar data, but no turn-by-turn mode. There are several postings about it on STS.<br /><br />It's big. Mine is mounted in the panel now, but at first I used the supplied suction cup mount to attach it to the left corner of the windscreen. Worked fine there, but I had to crane my neck slightly to see the ignition switch.<br /><br />(Pilot My-Cast does WX, including radar, wherever you can use a digital cellphone.)
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Bruno Grondin - Mar 14,2008
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My Garmin 496 is wonderful.... but its over 1000k....
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Kenneth Leonard - Mar 14,2008
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I really like my Anywheremap. I use it on a HP PocketPC but you can put it on lots of different sized units up to a full sized tablet. The software is very cheap (~$100), annual support deal isn't needed, but it's worth it - a small fee gives you 28 day airspace updates and hourly Notams. Can be upgraded for XM weather. If you already use a relatively modern Pocket PC or tablet, it's a no-brainer.
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Jeff Arnold - Mar 14,2008
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Ken, Don't I remember Dan Nickens referring to that unit as the 'Could be Anywhere Map'? You say the software is $100 and it runs on a pocket PC, but what receives the GPS signal? Sounds like some more hardware would be involved. Any guess what the whole thing would cost to start from scratch? Thanks! Jeff
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Dave Lima - Mar 14,2008
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Jeff, there is an anywhere map bundle on e-bay for $500, you can also get a garmin 295 used for about $500 as well.
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Jeff Arnold - Mar 14,2008
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Thanks Dave, I looked on Ebay and saw 2 listings. The one about to expire is using an external GPS receiver. I don't want that - too much clutter. The other package looks nice but has over a day to go. I am sure the price will go up
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Dennis Vogan - Mar 14,2008
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I have thet Airmap 600C: the little color unit that has all the same features as the 2000C but the smaller screen. I bought this because of he shape/size fit where I had room on the panel. I think it sells for about $500 down there.
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Jeff Arnold - Mar 14,2008
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How long have you had it and how do you like it Dinnis?
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Dennis Vogan - Mar 14,2008
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I've bought the unit shortly after they launched it a couple years ago. The GPS receiver works just like any other receiver does these days. What I like about the unit: the software is very well designed. It's very easy to program and quick to manouver through different functions/screens, which is a real bonus when you're busy flying the plane. It does have a small screen but I find it doesn't make any difference in the way it serves the purpose. It's small enough to not take up much real estate on the panel.
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Kenneth Leonard - Mar 14,2008
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I'll let Dan make his own comments but he was using old hardware. I believe he bought newer hardware and last I heard, he didn't call it that anymore.<br /><br />However, you are correct that I failed to mention that I use a separate bluetooth GPS - about $130 and the size of a cell phone.
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Dan Nickens - Mar 14,2008
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You're right, Ken. I do have newer hardware. Now I call it the 'I could be most anywhere map.' Despite the newer hardware, its the same old grayware in the pilot's seat that causes the ambiguity.
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Jeff Arnold - Mar 14,2008
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Ken - thanks for throwing the Anywhere map into the ring. Very interesting. I have been educating myself on it. I now understand the Hp pocket PC has a built in GPS receiver so all you need is to plug it into power (if you want to go beyond the 3 hour battery life).<br /><br />Here is my summary comparing the Lowrance v. Anywhere map:<br /><br />Advantages Anywhere Map over Lowrance:<br /> 1. Battery life - 3 hours v. 30 minutes<br /> 2. Works as a turn by turn device in the car<br /> 3. Incudes private airports<br /> 4. Functions as a pocket PC<br /> 5. Small and light<br /> 6. Ugradeable for weather, traffic avoidance, approach plates, etc.<br /><br />Concerns about Anywhere Map:<br /> 1. Use of a stylus in the cocpit<br /> 2. People have complaind of perfornace problems - locking up - loosing position<br /><br />Would welcome comments on these pros / cons or other considerations I am missing. Thanks All!!<br />
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Kenneth Leonard - Mar 14,2008
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Mine has never locked up but my hardware is less than 3 years old. I think the older processors did have problems. Loosing position is a matter of the GPS. Depends on what you use. I like my bluetooth DeLorm GPS because it's platform independent and I just throw it up on the dashboard for good signal reception. I believe you need to buy additional software for the road mapping to work. Also, battery life is dependent on the hardware device you use. I plug mine into the plane but figure if power is lost, it's still good for an hour or more. The GPS is good for 8 hours per charge.<br />The stylus is not as good as a soft touch screen, but there is a 'rough air' feature if needed - which shouldn't be needed in Searey conditions!
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Bruno Grondin - Mar 15,2008
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I still like my 496.....
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John Robert Dunlop - Mar 15,2008
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Bruno, I like your 496 too. But my AvMap EKP IV costs $900 less than the 496 and has a huge 7' screen. The automatically trickle-charged NiMH batteries give the unit over an hour of emergency power. It does have marine information but not as good secondary road detail as the Garmin.
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Lee Coulman - Mar 16,2008
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Ken<br />I have Anywhere map but I have given up on it. I prefer the dedicated GPS like my GPS Pilot III, 195 or 295. These have dedicated user friendly interfaces with real aviation databases.<br />I found that I was constantly getting caught in the Windows 'panes' (pun intended) - HEAD OUT THE WINDOW (not in the window). My usually reliable IPAQ crashed and so did the program. Never had this happen on the Garmin GPSs. Another feature that is missing on Anywhere is a position track recording feature. I use this all of time to record my flights on the Garmins and display on Google Earth.<br />- Last year when I had Anywhere updated at Sun n Fun I lost all of my backups during the experience. (most of that is my own fault)<br /><br />I'd like to here Dan's comments on his Anywhere map experience.
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Dan Nickens - Mar 18,2008
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There isn't enough space on this site, Lee, to handle what I'd have to say about Anywhere Map. Let me just summarize: Anywhere Map is an inexpensive, feature filled system perfect for computer geeks. Thankfully, I've always had my Garmin for backup.
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Eric Batterman - Mar 18,2008
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Dan, you are the master word smith.
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Bob Toerner - Mar 15,2008
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Jeff, I mean no disrespect to the others, but..... You have a $60 thousand airplane.... why chinse out on the one item that your life may depend on. I fly with a old Garmin 295 and a 495 with weather..... If you plan to just hang around the patch you can go frugal ... but there is no better feeling than flying along on a cross country and just glance over and see your weather, prevailng runway winds, TFR's, and any thunderstoms and their movement . I fly from Florida to Kentucky and then to the Canada Gaggle and back every year..... GETTA GARMIN... isn't that what the ad says. It's not the money...its peace of mind !!!!!!
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Dennis Vogan - Mar 15,2008
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Bob, will you adopt me?
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Philip Mendelson - Mar 15,2008
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I have to agree with Professor Bob! I have an AV-Map EKP1V. For local flying in the Rey<br />it has performed flawlessly, short cross countries, No problem, Nice BIG screen.<br />All good UNTIL I put it in my Mooney one day, BAD decision, Why , I do not know, but the unit would never work properly in my Mooney. Bob has a good point weather on a cross country is a GREAT Tool! The Garmins are very, very reliable I had a 530 with traffic and weather installed in the Mooney after my Av-Map failures..
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Bruno Grondin - Mar 17,2008
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Hey hehehehe...again I love my 496.....
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Eric Batterman - Mar 17,2008
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I love my 496 too, well maybe not the way Bruno does, more like Kevin. Especially in road mode when you look for the nearest IHOP from 10,000 ft.
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Kevin D'Angelo - Mar 15,2008
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Go for the Garmin 496 I am amazed at what it can do everytime I fly with it. It goes to my car to the rey and the 210. I never go anywhere without it. I even take it into the Taxi after flying somewhere to make sure he isn't taking me around the block. I also am getting the weather on the way to airport . I never leave home without it
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Frank A. Carr - Mar 21,2008
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Question for all you 496 lovers: What's wrong with the 296 for less than half the price? Looks like it has <br />everything a SeaRey pilot would need except XM & Weather.
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Charles Pickett - Mar 22,2008
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The weather makes the difference, A big difference. at least for me, I also have the weather on when <br />driving
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Eric Batterman - Mar 22,2008
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And real time TFRs, wx at your destination, etc. Also comes with the AOPA airport directory, taxi diagrams. 2 lbs saved for $600!
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Frank A. Carr - Mar 22,2008
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Eric, The price difference I've seen is more like -$1300 ($2400-1100) and I use Flight Guide which is much <br />easier to use in the cockpit than an electronic airport directory. So given the good weather in Florida, I still <br />think the 296 is a great buy In fact, it appears to have more capability than my IFR certified 430.
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Eric Batterman - Mar 22,2008
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OK I admit, I carry the flight guide too. I think the 496 has higher res terrain - and the wx, well - don't leave home without it.
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Dave Martin - Mar 16,2008
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I was still deciding what to use for GPS in my build. I spoke with Angel at PA and he seemed very enthusiastic about the Flight Cheetah. He said it does everything the Garmin does with a larger screen (210 model). I think the synthetic vision is a neat feature. Unless I find something better for my needs, I'm getting this. <br /><br /><a href="http://www.aviationsafety.com/products.htm">http://www.aviationsafety.com/products.htm</a><br />
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Jeff Arnold - Mar 16,2008
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Thank you all for your input. I have decided on the Anywhere Map with iPAQ5915 turn key system. Thanks Ken for the suggestion.<br /><br />To the 496 advocates: I hear you. It is just way beyond my budget and I don't fly cross country enough to justify it. If I did choose the WX capability, I would probably still go with Anywhere Map. Buying the basic Anywhere Map system, I can upgrade to WX in the future if I so choose. <br /><br />I will report back after I receive my Anywhere Map how it works out.
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Swede Rundquist - Mar 17,2008
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Go with the 496. Mine could still be seen working underwater 3hrs after it went under. I wiped it dry and it's still works like a Timex. Keeps on ticking. Weather and all. It's well worth the investment.
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Dennis Scearce - Mar 21,2008
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Swede: what was it doing under water for 3 hours?
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Robert Lee - Mar 21,2008
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Swede, <br />Now that is testimony that is hard to beat! Too bad you did not get a good picture of that. You should contact Garmin anyway, I am sure they would be interested in your story.<br />
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