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	If you build an LSX to be Light Sport compliant, you can not do mods unless the factory gives a written permission. If all these mods that make the SeaRey better have not been incorporated into the LSX, Should they be, before the Light Sport certification process?<br />Am I going to be stuck with gear repairs, plastic fuel tank and without whatever other mods that make the SeaRey better just to be able to fly under Sport Pilot Rules? <br />Can't some one with some pull with PA get them to at least offer these mods as options?<br />Or do I need to just build it as a experimental and try to get my medical renewed?

Don Maxwell - Jun 25,2009 Viewers | Reply


	Thomas, if you register it as Experimental, you're the manufacturer, and you can do almost anything you like. Experimentals that meet the weight, airspeed, seating, and other limits can be flown by Sport Pilots.


	Thomas - the LSX will incorporate most of the updates that PA has put into the searey. If you build it, you can modify it all you like. However, for the factory built version, after the FAA approves the company to build a pre-'certified' version, the company would have to get approval for any changes.<br />


	I read that in order for the kit to be a ELSA, you could not do any mods. But your saying I can fly an Experimental with all the mods under Sport Pilot with out a medical?

Dave Lima - Jun 25,2009 Viewers | Reply


	I would do what Ken is suggesting, build it as you like.


	So what would be the advantage/disadvantage to build it ELSA versus Experimental?

Tony Gugliuzza - Jun 25,2009 Viewers | Reply


	Thomas.<br /><br />Just build it experimental and FLY it SPORT.<br />That's what I do and its totally legal.<br /><br />The plane doesn't have to be a REGISTERED LSA for you to fly it under sport pilot privileges, it just has to fit the specs for the light sport definition. The Searey does.<br /><br />The only advantage to having a registered LSA is when you sell it, the buyer will have the option of taking the maintenance course and repair and inspect it himself.<br />You as the builder of the experimental will have this privilege anyway. <br /><br />In my case, since I purchased my 'rey already built, I have to use an AP.


	Thanks for the info.

Randolph Palma - Jun 25,2009 Viewers | Reply


	That's not all quite correct. For instance if you build it and register it as an 'E' LSA then the final aircraft must still fit within the requirements of an LSA. Meaning you could not add an inflight adjustable prop for instance or make a mod that would increase the max takeoff weight above 1430lbs or a mod that increases cruise above the max LSA speed etc.<br /><br />If you buy a factory made 'S'LSA then they way you get it is pretty much the way it stays barring any factory authorized changes. Just like someone who goes out and buys a cessna or cirrus. <br /><br />Additionally aircraft MUST be named on the FAA approved list of LSA's. Now because seareys are already there (or soon to be) you can probably get away with it. However take for example flying a Cessna 140 which would fall withing the general guidelines of an LSA but is not on the approved list of LSA aircraft that would be illegal as I understand the reg.


	Forgive my lack of knowledge, but what does a in flight adjustable prop do? From what I remember from ground school, on Cessna's that had them, you adjusted the motor rpms by the prop pitch lever and not the throttle if I remember right. does it just make the plane go faster?

Don Maxwell - Jun 25,2009 Viewers | Reply


	It's sort of like shifting gears on a car, Thomas. You use low gear or flat pitch for climbing hills and high gear or steep pitch for cruising. But the Sport Pilot rules prohibit flying airplanes that have inflight-adjustable props.

Tony Gugliuzza - Jun 25,2009 Viewers | Reply


	Randy, right, it has to fall under light sport rules, so an in-flight adjustable prop is out.<br /><br />You can fly any plane under light sport privileges as long as it does and HAS ALWAYS fit under the light sport regs., regardless of whether there is a light sport version or not.<br />The Cessna 140 is a no go because it has a certified gross weight of 1500 lbs.<br /><br />Many Talyorcrafts, Aeronicas, and cubs ar OK because they fit the definition of light sport, even though they never have , or never will be certified LSAs.

Bård Sørbye - Jun 26,2009 Viewers | Reply


	Under Experimental regulations in Norway I have to get the kit manufacturer's approval for any mod that I make. Kerry said 'just send us descriptions of the mods, and we'll approve them'.


	At this point PA has no plan to offer the SeaRey as an eLSA. Hopefully they will have a factory-built sLSA certified this year. It will be called the SeaRey 'Sport'.<br /><br />The SeaRey 'LSX' is a 51% Experimental kit. The builder can certainly complete it so that it can be flown by a Sport Pilot certificated person.

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