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Eric Batterman - Jun 22,2017
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I'm planning to fly to an airport along the path of the eclipse - somewhere in SC or maybe TN or KY.
Be fun to make it a fly-in. Recommendations?
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Don Maxwell - Jun 22,2017
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Eric, I had completely forgotten about TripleTree. That changes everything, maybe.
The path of totality runs right through Clemson, SC (Clemson University). There are two airports very close to Clemson, CEU and LQK. The two lakes just north of Clemson, Lake Keowee and Lake Jocassee are open to seaplanes. My Plan A.1 is (or was) to fly to one or the other--or possibly to 1A5, in NC west of Ashland, the day before, so as to have an easy eclipse morning. I'll probably watch the eclipse from aloft. (Family and I watched one from a hilltop in Mexico in the '90s and enjoyed being able to see beyond the totality area.)
My Plan A.2 is (or was) to stay around Columbia, SC, which is also in totality and where the rest of my family would prefer to watch from because there's more other stuff to entertain them, they say. Lake Monroe, just west of Columbia, is also open to seaplanes.
The SC coastal plain is pretty in its way, but not the kind of territory I'd care to camp in, should that become a necessity; and surface transport is complicated by the marshes, and all.
See the attached images: A sectional chart with the center of totality plotted in red and an eclipse totality map.
(As you can tell, my plans are somewhat complicated because everyone in our immediate family (Carol and SonChris+WifeBea+Toddler and SonJon) all intend to go to SC; and Carol has a cousin in Asheville. Also, if flying there in the Searey doesn't work out at the last moment, I'll ride in a car with some of them.)
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Don Maxwell - Aug 20,2017
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My Plan A (flying to SC in the SeaRey) fell through. Carol shot this sign on I-85 near Anderson SC this evening:
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Carr, Frank - Aug 20,2017
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Don, We have relatives throughout the SC path of the eclipse. The State has been active in planning (i.e., worrying about) for the
aftermath of the event. The State figures that leading up to the eclipse will be one thing relative to traffic, but after it's over, forget
driving on the Interstates. Clemson is renting parking spaces for $50, Duke power is shutting down street lights (that activate in the
dark) in reaction to requests, companies from Clemson to Columbia are giving glasses or time off or both, etc., etc. I glad we're not
there. We plan to glimpse a wee bit here in FMY, or await the next eclipse when it will be total in SWFL--2045. Good luck.
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Jeff Arnold - Aug 20,2017
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Sorry Don
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Don Maxwell - Aug 20,2017
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No prob, Jeff. CAROL had a Plan B: So we and one son are at a motel in Anderson, and the other son, his wife, and their toddler are
at a motel near Greenville. Maybe we'll see you at Triple Tree--although maybe not during totality, as their Plan calls for watching it in a botanical garden near Clemson. Not sure if that's mutable.
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Robert Richardson IV - Aug 10,2017
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"Pilot GetAways" and "Flying" magazine both had eclipse pilot's guide articles.
They spurred me to exploring flying into an local airport on the eclipse path.
While I am still in the planning phase I haven't settled into where to go.
I figure I'd to fly down the day before and overnite @100 miles off center-line,
somewhere in SC (assuming clear WX), then fly into my observation point late
in the morning, then fly out after the event to an another overnight location.
Looking at the East Coast track, looks one needs to be in place between 11-12Noon depending on local
I plotted the eclipse center-line and IDed 17 airports and 12-15 water bodies where an adventuress
SeaRey pilots could put down to watch the show. Tripletree (SC00) is 27 miles off center-line.
The articles referred to a couple of eclipse planning sites that I use to put together.
* An Eclipse track & timeline chart
* An Airports on the eclipse center-line chart
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Eric Batterman - Aug 10,2017
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Nice charts. I'm currently planning for KLUX Laurens Co SC - just a little bit south of Triple Tree - and maybe drive up to triple tree (it is expected to be quite the zoo).
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Jeff Arnold - Aug 11,2017
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I am planning to fly to Triple Tree Sunday afternoon with a fuel stop at Dutchman Creek Marina on the way. Plan to camp and then watch the eclipse from the air. That is the plan anyway. Who else is coming?
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Don Maxwell - Aug 13,2017
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Jeff, stopping at the Dutchman's Creek marina will add about 60 nm to your flight to Triple Tree (and to mine, too, if I manage to fly there). So I wonder if there's some place more on the direct line--westish of Charlotte--that has premium car gas. Does anyone know?
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Jeff Arnold - Aug 13,2017
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Dutchman Creek is a fun stop that justifies the extra distance.
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Don Maxwell - Aug 13,2017
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Ha! I thought you'd say something like that. And I agree completely.
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Dennis Scearce - Aug 13,2017
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Gastonia and Shelby only have 100LL. You could stop here but we're going to be in Columbia, SC.
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Don Maxwell - Aug 12,2017
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I'll be in the area, Jeff, although it's not clear yet whether I'll get there by Searey or by car.
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Jeff Arnold - Aug 12,2017
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You should come (by land or air) camp with us Sunday night, Don. We plan to do the Dinner, Breakfast, and Lunch meal plans they are offering.
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Don Maxwell - Aug 12,2017
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Yeah! (But 1 wife, 2 sons, 1 daughter-in-law, 1 grandbaby are complicating factors.)
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Jeff Arnold - Aug 13,2017
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Sounds like you need a big tent, Don. Could be quite the family event.
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Carr, Frank - Jun 22,2017
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Don, Anderson Municipal (KAND) is close to Clemson as well. Also larger than the other two.
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Jeff Arnold - Jun 22,2017
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Watching from the airplane. What a cool idea, Don. What altitude and heading would you recommend?
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Don Maxwell - Jun 22,2017
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I'm not sure, Jeff. In Mexico, we were at about 7,000 feet MSL on a hill about 200-300 feet above the valley floor, with three volcanoes visible, one about 20 miles away and the others 50 or 60 miles and outside totality. We could see sunlight--dim, like twilight--on the distant ones.
Where we were, it never got completely dark because of the sidelight coming in, but it got dark enough that the birds chirped their goodnight songs for half an hour or so before totality and their wake up calls afterward. Totality that time was almost 7 minutes. This time I think it's between 2 and 3 minutes.
So if you want dark, or if you want to use a camera or telescope on a tripod, I'd say stay on the ground. I've done that, so I hope to be aloft--maybe 2,000 or 3,000 AGL. Higher than that would be interesting because you'd be able to see the whole width of the totality clearly; but it might not get very dark up there. So I really don't know. It's on my Mull Over list.
Heading. Hm... Hadn't even begun to think about that one. I suppose SE initally, to watch the dark spot appoach, and then NW to watch it go away--or should it be the other way around? Now I can't remember which direction it moves. Orbital mechanics 101. I guess it starts in the west and moves eastward, maybe. Who does know?
Another option is to land on one of the lakes and watch while afloat. That would reduce the traffic problem, but would also limit the range at which you could observe the totality to the boundaries of the lake. But it would also be interesting in its own right. (Will fish jump?)
One thing to worry about a bit is other air traffic. Everybody is going to be looking outside the cockpit, but nobody is going to be looking for traffic.
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Mark MacKinnon - Jun 26,2017
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I wonder, could you log that as night vfr?
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Don Maxwell - Jun 26,2017
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Interesting question, Mark. I think the answer is no--for two reasons. The bureaucratic one is that it will be between civil morning twilight and civil night twilight. But the practical one probably is that it won't be dark, and the higher you fly (VFR), the less dark it will probably be. (This is a thought experiment, not real experience.) On the hilltop in Mexico, it got fairly dark and the light had a sort of thin quality that I can't describe any other way. But there was always light coming in from the sides--from outside the zone of totality. So it was a peculiar kind of twilight, not night.
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Mark MacKinnon - Jun 26,2017
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It was kind of a tongue-in-cheek question, actually. One thing someone flying will notice will be the cooler air temp, esp. flying in and out of the shadow. The drop in temp is noticable on the ground as the sun is covered. I bet you remember that in Mexico, Don. I recall that during a partial eclipse in the 90's.
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Don Maxwell - Jun 26,2017
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I knew what you meant, Mark--but thought it really WAS an interesting question. You're right about the temp. It was more pronounced than when a cloud passes in front of the sun.
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Jeff Arnold - Jun 22,2017
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Hope it doesn't rain
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Mark MacKinnon - Jun 27,2017
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At least it will still get dark!
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Don Maxwell - Jun 28,2017
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Well, it seems to me that dark isn't the big deal in a total eclipse. During the only one I've watched (which lasted close to 7 minutes), it did get late-twilight dark. But the dark--or the light, depending on how you think about it--was of an eerie quality that I can't describe other than by "thin." Most people seemed to be watching the sun+moon object, which at totality looked like a black circle in the sky with a sharply defined rim of light around it. With binoculars or a small telescope, you could see the beads of fire in that rim. It was quite dramatic. (You MUST use a proper strong filter before and after totality.)
But because it was a long eclipse, there was time to do that and also pay attention to what was going on on the ground. One of our sons reminded me recently about the bee. One of us (we can't agree on who) had a bee alight on his or her shoe. It walked around a bit, but apparently couldn't navigate during totality, probably because the normal IR pattern of sunlight was interrupted. It had made a precautionary landing on the shoe in "IFR" conditions. A few minutes after totality ended, it took off and flew away. We have a (boring) still photo of it somewhere.
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Mark MacKinnon - Jun 22,2017
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Dang. I lived down there a few years ago. Oh well.
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Ken Leonard - Jun 22,2017
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My buddy and I are considering a long weekend hiking the AT in that area to knock out a couple of states (we are trying to hike in all
14 states the AT runs through). We would finish Monday to watch the Eclipse and then fly home.
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Dennis Scearce - Jun 22,2017
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I hope this isn't stealing the thread but, whatever you are going to do, you better lock it in. We're staying at a B&B in Columbia, SC. The owner said they have been booked up for 5 years but had a cancellation yesterday that we snagged. She said that they usually have 84,000 for a USC football game and the city has trouble handling it. The projection for the eclipse is 400,000 - in Columbia alone. The owner is even planning all three meals for her guests because you probably can't get near a restaurant. We taking extra beer and Fruit Loops and driving the MINI Cooper.
During the search, I came across these interesting hanger lofts at KCUB that were available on the website. Would have been a cool trip if Barbara could fly for 1:45 without puking all over my plane.
https://www.vrbo.com/1078073
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Don Maxwell - Jun 22,2017
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Relief Band! It really works. She might feel simply awful, but she won't puke with one of those babies on her wrist. (Well, of course I can't promise that. But it really does work.)
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Dennis Scearce - Jun 22,2017
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Got one. Has puke on it.
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Don Maxwell - Jun 22,2017
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Ah. Well. Tough case, eh? How long can she go before heaving up her cookies? Maybe you could do the trip in short hops. Step-taxi to the south end of the lake and then hop the bridges and dams down the Catawba River, and so on. Hop from lake to lake to the eclipse. She might not even notice the flying.
Nah. I guess not. Take the Mini C.
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Don Maxwell - Jun 22,2017
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Steve Kessinger - Jun 23,2017
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eclipse simulator https://eclipsemega.movie/simulator
Seattle will be close enough for me
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Mark MacKinnon - Jun 26,2017
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I see the northeast gets another chance in 2024. From Mexico through northern Maine.
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Eric Batterman - Jul 27,2017
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Don't forget to get your eclipse viewing glasses! Available from Home Depot or Lowes, 3 for $1.98. Most of the ones on Amazon are counterfeit! Many public libraries have free glasses too.
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Steve Kessinger - Aug 12,2017
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Back in my day, we didn't have no fancy eclipse glasses, we had to use a piece of exposed film.
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Carr, Frank - Aug 14,2017
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And where would you get a piece of exposed film now Steve? BYW, what is film?
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Carr, Frank - Aug 11,2017
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Couldn't find them in HD web site. There are dozens and dozens on Amazon, some priced in the hundreds$!!!
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Eric Batterman - Aug 11,2017
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https://www.lowes.com/pd/Eclipse-Paper-Glasses/1000255189
Sorry - $1.98 each Also walmart and Toys R Us.
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Carr, Frank - Aug 11,2017
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Thanks Eric.
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Wayne Nagy - Aug 12,2017
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Shop soon, Frank. I just purchased the last 10 that Lowes in Cape Coral had. (I'M looking for 2 more)
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Paul Sanchez - Aug 12,2017
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I think I'll just borrow one of these to watch the eclipse! ;-)
https://youtu.be/R0GNqlGNZkI
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Jeff Arnold - Aug 15,2017
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Am I the only Searey going to the Triple Tree Eclipse Fly-in?
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Robert Richardson IV - Sep 04,2017
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Jeff & Don,
I am planning on flying down to Triple Tree Sunday. Spending the night, then looking to jump to a lake or APT on the eclipse center line. based on my flight planning I am looking at 2 to 3 hopes from Baltimore (W48). What are your flying plans?
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Robert Richardson IV - Aug 16,2017
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Jeff & Don,
I am planning on flying down to Triple Tree Sunday. Spending the night, then looking to jump to a lake or APT on the eclipse center line. based on my flight planning I am looking at 2 to 3 hopes from Baltimore (W48). What are your flying plans?
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Jeff Arnold - Aug 16,2017
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Hey Robert, Great to hear that you are coming. My plan is to depart my home on Claytor Lake (37°4.4' N, 80°36.7W) around 2pm Sunday and fly to Ductman Creek Marina (34°25.5'N, 80°52.1W). Dutchman Creek Marina is a little out of the way, but you can drive up the boat ramp and pull right up to a fuel pump. There is also a restaurant and convenience store. It can be a good meal stop but we have pre purchased the Filet dinner at Triple Tree Sunday Night. We will be tent camping.
Feel free to join us for any or all of the trip down. If Claytor Lake is not too far west for you, I can certainly facilitate fuel if you choose to come here.
My plan is to view the eclipse from the air. I know I will miss a lot of the ground experience, but I have a desire to see the shadow coming form the air.
I have been to several beach fly-ins on Lake Murray near Columbia. The centerline of totality goes right over Lake Murray.
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Mark MacKinnon - Aug 17,2017
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Went to the first Lake Murray fly-in while I worked in S.C. Great time. Never mind I dunked my brand new camera while climbing into a Seabee.
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Robert Richardson IV - Aug 16,2017
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Both out of my way. My route splits the distance between the two with a gas & go stop at Lake Norman Airpark (14A). I had plan to view the eclipse from the ground. According to the eclipse maps, Triple Tree will have @2:10 totality. Moving to center line gets it up to 2:35 (see map below). But your lake Murray beach fly-in is of interest. I'd like to avoid the post-eclipse departure gaggle out of Triple Tree. is there a good beach or marina with MOGAS on Lake Murray?
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Jeff Arnold - Aug 16,2017
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Robert, I am not aware of auto fuel availability around Lake Murray, but here are the coordinates of the fly-in I attended:
34°2.2'N, 81°18.7'W
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Don Maxwell - Aug 16,2017
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Rob, viewing from the ground is the safest way--preferably from a hilltop or a large open area like a lake, or maybe an airport. The thing is, you don't want to be preoccupied with something else. (Let the pros take photos.) Just watch the eclipse and enjoy the experience. You only have a couple of minutes of totality!
That's what we did in the great 7+ minute Mexico eclipse in 1991--watched it from a hilltop that we used to live on. It's because of the Mexico experience that I'm hoping to experience this one from the air, despite the distractions, because I don't know what it will be like. Right now, though, it looks like I may have to drive there with my family, unless I can get the Searey flyable in time.
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Robert Richardson IV - Aug 16,2017
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Do you want to join me?
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Don Maxwell - Aug 17,2017
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I emailed you, Rob.
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Don Maxwell - Aug 15,2017
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Maybe, Jeff. I'm still hoping to make it there, but the work is going slowly.
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Jeff Arnold - Aug 16,2017
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Good luck, Don!
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Wayne Nagy - Aug 20,2017
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Question??? If I am flying near Ft. Myers (78% coverage) will I notice ANYTHING different when looking down???
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Carr, Frank - Aug 21,2017
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No, because you'll be at your normal 20' MSL.
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Don Maxwell - Aug 20,2017
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Triple Tree this evening from about halfway along the runway. Forecast for the eclipse: clear and light air.
Click photo for higher resolution.
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Don Maxwell - Aug 22,2017
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Totality--my best shot (Canon SX-60). Click twice for best resolution.
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Robert Richardson IV - Sep 04,2017
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Here is what the Triple tree area look like at from the approach of the shadow to total eclipse. Notice what happen to he cloud build up.
Also here is link of the video I made of my Triple Tree arrival
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Don Maxwell - Sep 04,2017
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Rob, great photo sequence, and your video is interesting--the speed gives a good idea of what a busy arrival is like.
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Sauers, Jeff - Aug 25,2017
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Holy smoke Don! Killer shot!
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Don Maxwell - Aug 25,2017
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Jeff, the camera settings were very important. The Canon camera (above) was at ISO 100, f5.6, 1/125 sec). In contrast, a little video camera that had no manual settings, got this view on auto--at the same time the Canon got the shot above. What looks like a full, bright sun was totally eclipsed, but the camera couldn't capture it.
One of our sons, who had been especially interested in seeing the planets during totality, saw none of them and was very disappointed. In the Mexico eclipse, we had seen several planets and lots of stars. But there we were standing at about 7,000 MSL, and the air was dry. In SC, the air was sodden.
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Nickens, Dan - Aug 23,2017
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Caught some flares! That's HOT!
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Jeff Arnold - Aug 22,2017
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Great shot Don!!
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Don Maxwell - Aug 23,2017
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The sky wasn't as dark down in SC as it was on the plateau in Mexico. We couldn't see planets and stars, probably because of the humidity. On the other hand, we were in the SC Botanical Gardens, with trees all around blocking the sidelight, so it got really dark at ground level. It wasn't pitch dark, but close to it. I found the experience more emotional than before--kept hearing myself say, "Ahh!" to no one at all.
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