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Favorite option: If you want this item to be marked as a favorite, click on the black heart.   Solar Eclipse August 21  
  
Eric Batterman - Jun 22, 2017   Viewers  | Reply
    I'm planning to fly to an airport along the path of the eclipse - somewhere in SC or maybe TN or KY.
Be fun to make it a fly-in. Recommendations?
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Don Maxwell - Jun 22, 2017   Viewers  | Reply
    Eric, I had completely forgotten about TripleTree. That changes everything, maybe.

The path of totality runs right through Clemson, SC (Clemson University). There are two airports very close to Clemson, CEU and LQK. The two lakes just north of Clemson, Lake Keowee and Lake Jocassee are open to seaplanes. My Plan A.1 is (or was) to fly to one or the other--or possibly to 1A5, in NC west of Ashland, the day before, so as to have an easy eclipse morning. I'll probably watch the eclipse from aloft. (Family and I watched one from a hilltop in Mexico in the '90s and enjoyed being able to see beyond the totality area.)

My Plan A.2 is (or was) to stay around Columbia, SC, which is also in totality and where the rest of my family would prefer to watch from because there's more other stuff to entertain them, they say. Lake Monroe, just west of Columbia, is also open to seaplanes.

The SC coastal plain is pretty in its way, but not the kind of territory I'd care to camp in, should that become a necessity; and surface transport is complicated by the marshes, and all.

See the attached images: A sectional chart with the center of totality plotted in red and an eclipse totality map.

(As you can tell, my plans are somewhat complicated because everyone in our immediate family (Carol and SonChris+WifeBea+Toddler and SonJon) all intend to go to SC; and Carol has a cousin in Asheville. Also, if flying there in the Searey doesn't work out at the last moment, I'll ride in a car with some of them.)
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Carr, Frank  - Jun 22, 2017   Viewers  | Reply
    Don, Anderson Municipal (KAND) is close to Clemson as well. Also larger than the other two.     
  
Jeff Arnold - Jun 22, 2017   Viewers  | Reply
    Watching from the airplane. What a cool idea, Don. What altitude and heading would you recommend?     
  
Don Maxwell - Jun 22, 2017   Viewers  | Reply
    I'm not sure, Jeff. In Mexico, we were at about 7,000 feet MSL on a hill about 200-300 feet above the valley floor, with three volcanoes visible, one about 20 miles away and the others 50 or 60 miles and outside totality. We could see sunlight--dim, like twilight--on the distant ones.

Where we were, it never got completely dark because of the sidelight coming in, but it got dark enough that the birds chirped their goodnight songs for half an hour or so before totality and their wake up calls afterward. Totality that time was almost 7 minutes. This time I think it's between 2 and 3 minutes.

So if you want dark, or if you want to use a camera or telescope on a tripod, I'd say stay on the ground. I've done that, so I hope to be aloft--maybe 2,000 or 3,000 AGL. Higher than that would be interesting because you'd be able to see the whole width of the totality clearly; but it might not get very dark up there. So I really don't know. It's on my Mull Over list.

Heading. Hm... Hadn't even begun to think about that one. I suppose SE initally, to watch the dark spot appoach, and then NW to watch it go away--or should it be the other way around? Now I can't remember which direction it moves. Orbital mechanics 101. I guess it starts in the west and moves eastward, maybe. Who does know?

Another option is to land on one of the lakes and watch while afloat. That would reduce the traffic problem, but would also limit the range at which you could observe the totality to the boundaries of the lake. But it would also be interesting in its own right. (Will fish jump?)

One thing to worry about a bit is other air traffic. Everybody is going to be looking outside the cockpit, but nobody is going to be looking for traffic.
    
  
Mark MacKinnon - Jun 26, 2017   Viewers  | Reply
    I wonder, could you log that as night vfr?     
  
Don Maxwell - Jun 26, 2017   Viewers  | Reply
    Interesting question, Mark. I think the answer is no--for two reasons. The bureaucratic one is that it will be between civil morning twilight and civil night twilight. But the practical one probably is that it won't be dark, and the higher you fly (VFR), the less dark it will probably be. (This is a thought experiment, not real experience.) On the hilltop in Mexico, it got fairly dark and the light had a sort of thin quality that I can't describe any other way. But there was always light coming in from the sides--from outside the zone of totality. So it was a peculiar kind of twilight, not night.     
  
Mark MacKinnon - Jun 26, 2017   Viewers  | Reply
    It was kind of a tongue-in-cheek question, actually. One thing someone flying will notice will be the cooler air temp, esp. flying in and out of the shadow. The drop in temp is noticable on the ground as the sun is covered. I bet you remember that in Mexico, Don. I recall that during a partial eclipse in the 90's.     
  
Don Maxwell - Jun 26, 2017   Viewers  | Reply
    I knew what you meant, Mark--but thought it really WAS an interesting question. You're right about the temp. It was more pronounced than when a cloud passes in front of the sun.     
  
Jeff Arnold - Jun 22, 2017   Viewers  | Reply
    Hope it doesn't rain     
  
Mark MacKinnon - Jun 27, 2017   Viewers  | Reply
    At least it will still get dark!     
  
Don Maxwell - Jun 28, 2017   Viewers  | Reply
    Well, it seems to me that dark isn't the big deal in a total eclipse. During the only one I've watched (which lasted close to 7 minutes), it did get late-twilight dark. But the dark--or the light, depending on how you think about it--was of an eerie quality that I can't describe other than by "thin." Most people seemed to be watching the sun+moon object, which at totality looked like a black circle in the sky with a sharply defined rim of light around it. With binoculars or a small telescope, you could see the beads of fire in that rim. It was quite dramatic. (You MUST use a proper strong filter before and after totality.)

But because it was a long eclipse, there was time to do that and also pay attention to what was going on on the ground. One of our sons reminded me recently about the bee. One of us (we can't agree on who) had a bee alight on his or her shoe. It walked around a bit, but apparently couldn't navigate during totality, probably because the normal IR pattern of sunlight was interrupted. It had made a precautionary landing on the shoe in "IFR" conditions. A few minutes after totality ended, it took off and flew away. We have a (boring) still photo of it somewhere.
    
  
Mark MacKinnon - Jun 22, 2017   Viewers  | Reply
    Dang. I lived down there a few years ago. Oh well.     
  
Ken Leonard - Jun 22, 2017   Viewers  | Reply
    My buddy and I are considering a long weekend hiking the AT in that area to knock out a couple of states (we are trying to hike in all
14 states the AT runs through). We would finish Monday to watch the Eclipse and then fly home.
    
  
Dennis Scearce - Jun 22, 2017   Viewers  | Reply
    I hope this isn't stealing the thread but, whatever you are going to do, you better lock it in. We're staying at a B&B in Columbia, SC. The owner said they have been booked up for 5 years but had a cancellation yesterday that we snagged. She said that they usually have 84,000 for a USC football game and the city has trouble handling it. The projection for the eclipse is 400,000 - in Columbia alone. The owner is even planning all three meals for her guests because you probably can't get near a restaurant. We taking extra beer and Fruit Loops and driving the MINI Cooper.
During the search, I came across these interesting hanger lofts at KCUB that were available on the website. Would have been a cool trip if Barbara could fly for 1:45 without puking all over my plane.
https://www.vrbo.com/1078073
    
  
Don Maxwell - Jun 22, 2017   Viewers  | Reply
    Relief Band! It really works. She might feel simply awful, but she won't puke with one of those babies on her wrist. (Well, of course I can't promise that. But it really does work.)      Attachments:  

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Dennis Scearce - Jun 22, 2017   Viewers  | Reply
    Got one. Has puke on it.     
  
Don Maxwell - Jun 22, 2017   Viewers  | Reply
    Ah. Well. Tough case, eh? How long can she go before heaving up her cookies? Maybe you could do the trip in short hops. Step-taxi to the south end of the lake and then hop the bridges and dams down the Catawba River, and so on. Hop from lake to lake to the eclipse. She might not even notice the flying.

Nah. I guess not. Take the Mini C.
    
  
Don Maxwell - Jun 22, 2017   Viewers  | Reply
    "There will be over 1000 aircraft parking and camping non reserved. Also over 1000 non reserved dry camping sites for tents and RV's."

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Here's a direct link to the TripleTree eclipse page: http://www.tripletreeaerodrome.com/eclipse-fly-in.php

    
  
Steve Kessinger - Jun 23, 2017   Viewers  | Reply
    eclipse simulator https://eclipsemega.movie/simulator


Seattle will be close enough for me
    
  
Mark MacKinnon - Jun 26, 2017   Viewers  | Reply
    I see the northeast gets another chance in 2024. From Mexico through northern Maine.     

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