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	By the sounds of it, he was taking off into a pretty stiff breeze.

Jim Moline - Apr 10,2008 Viewers | Reply


	I may be mistaken, but it looks like he did a 'three point' T/O.<br />my tail wheel training was based on lifting the tail ASAP and letting the a/c fly itself off the ground in a lesser angle of attack. is this worth a comment from 'the experts', of which I am not?

Jon Ladd - Apr 11,2008 Viewers | Reply


	I tend to agree with you Jim however, since Ren has hundreds of hours in his Extra 300, I'm not going to tell him how he should fly any tail dragger!


	When I've trained someone new to the high thrust line of the SeaRey (and perhaps new to tail draggers) I generally have them keep the tail wheel “planted” as the throttle is opened and only then to just relax the back pressure enough for the tail wheel to come off. (I’ve had a few try and dig a trench with the nose!) <br />The aircraft usually quickly “levitates” (especially if there is any headwind and no passenger.)<br />

Frank A. Carr - Apr 27,2008 Viewers | Reply


	And John, your reason for keeping the tail wheel planted (other than no trenches) is to maintain steerability in the face of increasing P-factor as the throttle is advance?


	Yes Frank, I guess I should have made that more clear although once one gets used to the P-factor the input of right rudder becomes automatic. I suppose experienced tail dragger operators do not need to 'keep the tail wheel planted' but certainly the novice seems to handle takeoffs better if he starts with that premace.. <br />Also, on soft fields I believe it's better to keep the tail down (especially if taking off with the park brake set...)

Bruno Grondin - Apr 28,2008 Viewers | Reply


	hehehehe, sorry John, I need to make this comment... forgot parking brake hehehe...<br />I still love you John....<br />Again, hehehe until it happens to me too....<br /><br />Hug<br />Bruno<br /><br />

Frank A. Carr - Apr 28,2008 Viewers | Reply


	Thanks and I was sure that that was your intent John, as I am sensitive to the issue since it took me a (quite a large ) number of takeoffs to recognize the proper coordination of right rudder and advancing throttle. For me it's still not 'automatic' but I can deal with it now in a non-harrowing manner; automatic may come in the future. While I learned to fly in taildraggers (Aeronca Champs) either the effect wasn't there or it was so many decades ago I have forgotten the problem.


	Hey Frank, I also learned to fly off grass on a 65 hp Aeronca Champ in 1960! (The only other tail draggers I tangled with before the SeaRey was the Chipmunk in 1963 and the DC-3 in 1970.)


	John - lots of people were flying with grass in the 60s.

Jeff Arnold - Apr 30,2008 Viewers | Reply


	If you remember the 60's, you weren't there.

Frank A. Carr - Apr 28,2008 Viewers | Reply


	Grass would have been nice John. But we had a combo of gravel, dirt and with an occasional paved patch with electric wires at runway end, but no grass. No 150' wide runways either--the whole airport was about that. '57 & '58. Traditional maroon and gold Champs and same 65hp which was pretty powerful sounding--at least with no headset; guess headsets weren't needed since no radio, no starter, no battery--just airplane.<!-- >'"><br><font color=red size=6>' or > missing in user HTML. Please fix the HTML.</font> -->


	That's right swing the prop and don't talk to anyone! And no flaps either. Used to love those full rudder stick hard over slips! (Actually the SeaRey does a reasonable slip too.)

Don Maxwell - Apr 29,2008 Viewers | Reply


Here's a little SeaRey slip (but less than half rudder):	Attachments: ALittleSlipShowing	Attachments: ALittleSlipShowing


	Gee, you're even out doing slips! And here I thought you got blown away in a Tornado!

Prior James - May 07,2008 Viewers | Reply


	Nice Landing Don at Beaver Dam VA33<br />I am surprised that there were no cats crossing the active!

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