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Andy Shane - Nov 01,2010
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Don Maxwell - Nov 01,2010
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Thanks, Andy. It's loaded with good advice that even the FAA lawyers couldn't obscure, hard as they obviously tried.
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Don Maxwell - Nov 01,2010
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I just love lawyer obfuscations like 'However, section 91.107(a)(3) provides that the person pushing off the seaplane from the dock and the person mooring the seaplane are excepted from the requirement to be seated in an approved seat and secured with a seatbelt.' Duh.
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Don Maxwell - Nov 01,2010
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It's baffling how one agency can place in one document a statement like that right together with this clear, sensible one: '(1) The pilot should keep commands simple and concise, since it is likely that passengers will cease to listen much beyond the initial order to evacuate. Passengers respond to very short instructions, i.e., “stop,” “leave it,” and “come here.” Pilots should issue commands and make decisions in a positive, confident, and expeditious manner.' Do law schools offer courses in irony?
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Don Maxwell - Nov 01,2010
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They got it right in Appendix 1: <br /><br />'Be Safe - Wear Your PFD<br /><br />'Most drownings occur way out at sea, right? Wrong! Fact is, the USCG reports that 9 out of 10 drownings occur in inland waters, most within a few feet of safety. Most of the victims owned PFD's, but they died without them. A wearable PFD can save your life - if you wear it.<br /><br />'If you or your passengers haven’t been wearing your PFD because of the way it makes you look or feel, there’s good news. Today’s PFD's fit better, look better, and allow easy movement. A brightly colored PFD can increase your chances of rescue.<br /><br />'One more thing: Before you take off, make sure all on board are wearing PFD's. To work best, a PFD must be worn with all straps, zippers, and ties fastened. Tuck in any loose strap ends to avoid getting hung up.<br /><br />'When you don’t wear your PFD, the odds are against you. You’re taking a chance on your life.'
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Joe Perez - Apr 21,2013
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New to this forum, considering buying a SeaRey, a Q fpr all: I live out west in the Wine <br />Country of Sonoma County. We have a river, the Russian River, that traverses the <br />County and flows into the Pacific Ocean. As well as the Petaluma River that flows into <br />San Pablo Bay, AKA San Francisco Bay, more or less. What is the legality of water ops <br />on these waterways? Leads to sources of info? Just got a demo flight from Tom <br />Binsfield out here this weekend and was very impressed with the airplane. Please <br />advise if anyone has info.
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Kenneth Leonard - Apr 21,2013
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Don Maxwell - Apr 21,2013
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Generally speaking, Joe, if a river is open to shipping--the big stuff--it's probably open to seaplanes as well. If a lake or other waterway is open to speedboats it may or may not be open to seaplanes. If it's closed to motorboats, you know what to expect in a seaplane. The Seaplane Pilots Association's 'Water Landing Directory' lists a lot of waterways, but certainly not all. It doesn't mention either the Russian River or the Petaluma--so I'd expect that their lower reaches, at least, are probably open.<br /><br />If in doubt, contact the owner or manager of the waterway and ask.
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Joe Perez - Apr 22,2013
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Thanks, gents. It's hard to pin down who 'owns' these two rivers. My guess is Russian, <br />at it's mouth, in a protected coastal zone would be regarded as Fed, ergo open. But hard <br />to tell. The mouth of it is 10 mins flying from STS and so it's important for me to find out. I <br />will look for local authorities. And i'll review The Book.
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Dennis Scearce - Apr 24,2013
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So 6.b. says:' re, a seaplane is a vessel once it lands on the water and, as such, is required to comply with the USCG navigation rules applicable to vessels. '<br />Does that mean rules such as equipment required to be on the 'vessel' and proper USCG registration? I know we circulated something official a few years ago that said otherwise.
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Don Maxwell - Apr 24,2013
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Dennis, there are certain exceptions for seaplanes on the water. Here's the SPA poop on it: <a href="http://www.seaplanes.org/mambo/UserFiles/File/CG_Requirments_Web_Page.pdf">http://www.seaplanes.org/mambo/UserFiles/File/CG_Requirments<br>_Web_Page.pdf</a><br /><br />Good to carry a copy in the SeaRey.
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Joe Perez - Apr 25,2013
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I really appreciate this research, folks. I am sure that the use of the Russian River estuary <br />would be contentious. So in a SeaRey I want to have as much ammo as possible to defend <br />my position. To that end, if there is a 5MPH speed limit posted, would that then negate any <br />compliance with 'appropriate local regulations'? I presume it would. The speed limit has <br />been changed a few times at this site. Others opinions, please. For those interested, see <br />this link to the location, a beautiful Wine Country destination that I must live within! I'm based <br />at KSTS, 10 mins to the east: https://maps.google.com/maps?<br />q&layer=c&z=17&iwloc=A&sll=38.449074,-123.114887&cid=6493437388961428355&cbp=1<br />3,200.5,0,0,0&cbll=38.449267,-123.114795&ved=0CBMQ2wU&sa=X&ei=mD95UaziLcaWi<br />QKYhoDwBQ&gl=US&hl=en-US
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Don Maxwell - Apr 25,2013
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Joe, I'd be somewhat surprised if the mouth of the Russian River is closed to seaplanes, as it appears to be navigable by largish power boats. (But seaplane regulations are often surprising.) Whether it would be smart to land one there is another matter, as it's probably heavily influenced by the ocean, which almost always includes swell. Any speed limitations would apply to seaplanes, unless the owner of the waterway specifically permits seaplane takeoffs and landings there.
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Steve Kessinger - Apr 27,2013
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Hi Joe,<br /><br />I used to be a CFI at Redwood Aviation at STS, and flew hang gliders at Goat Rock at the mouth of the Russian River. Never thought about landing a SeaRey there, now you're got me thinking.....<br /><br />Biggest challenge I'd see would be finding a straight and long enough section of river at the mouth a SR could launch from, I'm not sure the mouth is long and straight enough to safely land and takeoff from.
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Joe Perez - Apr 27,2013
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Steve,<br /><br />Yep, plenty long and zero swells as you can attest, Steve, if you lived here once. The <br />mouth is almost closed year round, guys. And only a Rey could practically use the fairly <br />limited location, length wise, I am of the newbie opinion. Politically, it would be very <br />unpopular. Many kayakers use the Estuary. But 'legally'? It may well be OK. My Q <br />remains: If the posted speed limit is 5 MPH by State Parks, would it be a violation to <br />conduct ops with seaplane? That is the question. Frankly, I am not sure what the limit it, <br />but this is likely.
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